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post #1261 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Sense View Post
 

I'm referring to the physical controls on the X1 and the X5 when I'm talking about unlabeled buttons. As for software... I'm referring to all of the DAP makers... they don't seem to have software designers in-house at any of these companies... perhaps they have programmers... but programmers produce horrible UI/UX most of the time... they need a design department. Even if they hired two guys... one to do User Experience/Interaction Design and one to do User Interface Design. Or if they already have a design team... they need to buy them some UX Design books... starting with "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug.

 

 

Also...It says on the first page that that is in fact the final design. What is interesting is that they were labeling the buttons on the early designs and decided not to on the final design. Perhaps it's not too late for them to change their mind. It makes absolutely no sense and no serious product would ever consider not labeling their buttons. It's perhaps the most simplistic element of user experience. Someone doesn't have to be in the field to understand the importance of it.

 

I was looking at the X5...almost pulled the trigger... but I can't get past those unlabeled buttons or the idea of a UI that is difficult to use.

^

Trigger as in almost buying it or...

G44... cuz you were so furious that it almost made you wanna blow one when you saw the design??? : P

 

Oh and i think your sentiments has longggggggggggggggggggggg been address by this thread here. Enjoy!!!

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682750/the-sad-state-of-the-so-called-audiophile-dap-market

post #1262 of 7658
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

I saw someone complained about the color of the UI, here is the one theme of the X1, hope you guys like it:beerchug:

 

 

 

 

 

I actually was thinking bout making a theme for the x3 that looks much like this, vertical layout tho... Hopefully Fiio won't mind if I shamelessly rip off the idea - or perhaps I'll just call it a homage:wink_face:

post #1263 of 7658

Regarding themes, why not make a "Theme" folder so that users can customize the UI themselves? Similar to Cowon PMP/DAPs. That way users can't complain anymore :)

 

 

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I would also prefer the non-labeled buttons, just like having blank keycaps on my keyboard :D

 

This is my preference though!


Edited by Dyaems - 7/6/14 at 5:21pm
post #1264 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Dyaems View Post

Regarding themes, why not make a "Theme" folder so that users can customize the UI themselves? Similar to Cowon PMP/DAPs. That way users can't complain anymore smily_headphones1.gif




I would also prefer the non-labeled buttons, just like having blank keycaps on my keyboard biggrin.gif

This is my preference though!

I assume you have extraordinary memory and high confidential xD
post #1265 of 7658
The X5 ui isn’t difficult to use at all, in my opinion.

You have 5 buttons and a wheel,

Top left : select
Top right: go back
Bottom left: previous/volume down
Bottom right next/volume up
Center: play/pause/select


Every UI takes time to get used to, but i had this one under control in 2 hours of use.

Labeling buttons makes it impossible to give them any other function, which takes away any freedom for a system change.
post #1266 of 7658

IMHO,

You need labelled buttons if your DAP is not enough intuitive.

IMHO

TRY TO REMEMBER !


Edited by Silverprout - 7/10/14 at 12:49pm
post #1267 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Silverprout View Post

IMHO,
You need labelled buttons if your DAP is not enough intuitive.
IMHO

TRY TO REMEMBER !

I completely agree with you.

Especially the white coloured part, which for ease i made red.

That's what i said. It may take a few hours to learn the UI. But try to remember.
post #1268 of 7658
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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post


I completely agree with you.

Especially the white coloured part, which for ease i made red.

That's what i said. It may take a few hours to learn the UI. But try to remember.

 

I sold my X5 recently... too big, too heavy.

I came back to the X3 to wait the X1, the X5 UI was far better.

post #1269 of 7658
I'm looking forward to getting one of these players. the buttons may be labelled after the firmware is finished and it's in production, but with so few functions it will surely be easy to use, irrespective of that. the four buttons almost have to be play/enter, back/menu and skipping tracks. there are only so many combinations.
post #1270 of 7658

I've got another question now. This thing is designed for IEMs and my JVC HA-S400 are likely to be okay, but what about stuff I'm considering buying that's slightly more power hungry? Everyone says the Havi B3 Pro is great, but needs an amp. If the X1 outputs 100mw, as compared to 60mw from an ipod, would that make up for it? How about M50s, AKG K550, and that sort of thing? I'm happy that I can buy an X1 and then get an E06 or E11 to give it a hand, but I'm also sick of waiting already, and tempted to just order an X3! Waiting is boring.

(PS If there's a simple way to calculate this based on impedance, sensitivity, etc, I'm all ears. I don't like begging for info off people)

post #1271 of 7658
There are ways to calculate but they are not always accurate. The AKG K550 can't be driven by my iNano 3 but can be driven with ease by my iPhone 4 at 50% volume. Also, capable of driving is easier to achieve than "driven well" IMO

Not sure if I makes sense thought haha
post #1272 of 7658
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post

There are ways to calculate but they are not always accurate. The AKG K550 can't be driven by my iNano 3 but can be driven with ease by my iPhone 4 at 50% volume. Also, capable of driving is easier to achieve than "driven well" IMO

Not sure if I makes sense thought haha

I'm asking for definite answers to cryptic questions with my fingers crossed. By comparison, that was remarkably clear! :D

 

If the numbers are accurate, and the iphone outputs roughly 60mw, and the X1 will output roughly 100mw, then the K550 should be okay, but it's all a bit borderline. It doesn't categorically say that I'm doing the right thing by waiting for the X1.

post #1273 of 7658
IMO driving to decent volume should be easy for X1 and K550 but I do see the K550 scale better with a little more IMO smily_headphones1.gif
post #1274 of 7658

What's the price point for the x1 again? thanks

post #1275 of 7658
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Originally Posted by TheAstray View Post
 

What's the price point for the x1 again? thanks

 

Around $100.

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