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post #1246 of 7658
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

 

yes, we have just make 30 pcs x1 for testing.

 

Sweet, I've been looking for a nice compact DAP that doesn't break the bank. I think you guys are on the cusp of something special here.

post #1247 of 7658

I've been wanting something to replace my ipod classic (7th gen) and clip plus (clip broke off).  The x1 might be it!

post #1248 of 7658

With an entry level pair of IEM's, how noticeably better (if at all) will the X1 be compared to similarly priced DAP's such as the C3 and the iPod Nano 7G? 

post #1249 of 7658
i hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking to buy my first quality dap, and may wait for the x1. am i right in thinking that the x1 ought to have similar sound quality to the x3, and that the key difference will be power output, so the the x1 would need amping for anything more power hungry than IEMs? Is it likely to power my JVC HA~500s properly? thanks
post #1250 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Dynamoes1 View Post
 

With an entry level pair of IEM's, how noticeably better (if at all) will the X1 be compared to similarly priced DAP's such as the C3 and the iPod Nano 7G? 

 

This: http://www.head-fi.org/t/691332/fiio-x1-the-most-portable-and-affordable-high-resolution-dap-from-fiio-updated-on-9-5-2014/1185#post_10666134

 

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Originally Posted by phillipwareham View Post

i hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking to buy my first quality dap, and may wait for the x1. am i right in thinking that the x1 ought to have similar sound quality to the x3, and that the key difference will be power output, so the the x1 would need amping for anything more power hungry than IEMs? Is it likely to power my JVC HA~500s properly? thanks

 

X3 still sounds a bit more refine to me, but the difference isn't night and day. X1 output power should be able to handle most IEM and headphones without any issue, unless we are talking about sub-8ohm or over-150ohm type. HA-S500 isn't particularly demanding, so I don't think extra amping is needed.

post #1251 of 7658
much appreciated! by my reasoning, an x1 and e11 are no more expensive than an x3, so there wouldn't be much need for regret if i switch to more power hungry phones. i could just add an amp, as and when needed and then leave it home when using IEMs.
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

This: http://www.head-fi.org/t/691332/fiio-x1-the-most-portable-and-affordable-high-resolution-dap-from-fiio-updated-on-9-5-2014/1185#post_10666134


X3 still sounds a bit more refine to me, but the difference isn't night and day. X1 output power should be able to handle most IEM and headphones without any issue, unless we are talking about sub-8ohm or over-150ohm type. HA-S500 isn't particularly demanding, so I don't think extra amping is needed.
post #1252 of 7658
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

 

yes, we have just make 30 pcs x1 for testing.

 

I guess I'll make the X1 my slightly late birthday present. :)

post #1253 of 7658

As a User Experience Designer... I find it very disconcerting that a company like Fiio, which produces devices that require both physical UI and software based UI, could release not one, but two devices with buttons that have no labels to tell the user what the buttons do when pressed.

 

Also... all I do is read about how bad the UI/UX is for all of these DAPs. Eventually, someone at one of these companies is going to hire a real User Experience Designer and a seasoned UI Designer and simply crush all of the competition.

post #1254 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Sense View Post

As a User Experience Designer... I find it very disconcerting that a company like Fiio, which produces devices that require both physical UI and software based UI, could release not one, but two devices with buttons that have no labels to tell the user what the buttons do when pressed.

Also... all I do is read about how bad the UI/UX is for all of these DAPs. Eventually, someone at one of these companies is going to hire a real User Experience Designer and a seasoned UI Designer and simply crush all of the competition.

Which devices are you referring to?
post #1255 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Sense View Post
 

As a User Experience Designer... I find it very disconcerting that a company like Fiio, which produces devices that require both physical UI and software based UI, could release not one, but two devices with buttons that have no labels to tell the user what the buttons do when pressed.

 

Also... all I do is read about how bad the UI/UX is for all of these DAPs. Eventually, someone at one of these companies is going to hire a real User Experience Designer and a seasoned UI Designer and simply crush all of the competition.


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LMAO +1000000000000000000000

 

There is no reason whatsoever to not put any labels on the buttons, i know it looks better/ more slick without the labels but are they SERIOUSLY expecting users to just memorize it all by heart??? It might be easy to do once you get the "hang"  of those unmarked buttons but still.... :rolleyes:

 

Can't FiiO just engrave those labels on those 4 front buttons on like so.....

... This

 

vs.

 

... blank buttons.

 

 

Or maybe print some kind of white lettering that is very hard to rub off on the silver buttons like so....

... this still keeps slick subtle look of the front while able to have labels for each of the buttons as well. But engraved buttons are the best route to go tbh for its professional look and durability.


Edited by sfwalcer - 7/6/14 at 1:01pm
post #1256 of 7658
Because of course that's a picture of the finished product...
post #1257 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

Because of course that's a picture of the finished product...


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ehhh just look at the X5.....

... nuff said.

 

 

The X1 is just a mini version of the X5 hardware wise, but with round buttons instead. Don't think FiiO ever had plans to put labels on those buttons....

post #1258 of 7658
The X3, E11 & E12 have labels, I see no reason to make negative assumptions until we see the finished product.
post #1259 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

The X3, E11 & E12 have labels, I see no reason to make negative assumptions until we see the finished product.


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Don't say i didn't warned ya'. :ksc75smile:

 

Oh and btw it's not "negative" assumptions but mo' like realist assumptions based on what James/ FiiO have said about this player so...

post #1260 of 7658

I'm referring to the physical controls on the X1 and the X5 when I'm talking about unlabeled buttons. As for software... I'm referring to all of the DAP makers... they don't seem to have software designers in-house at any of these companies... perhaps they have programmers... but programmers produce horrible UI/UX most of the time... they need a design department. Even if they hired two guys... one to do User Experience/Interaction Design and one to do User Interface Design. Or if they already have a design team... they need to buy them some UX Design books... starting with "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug.

 

 

Also...It says on the first page that that is in fact the final design. What is interesting is that they were labeling the buttons on the early designs and decided not to on the final design. Perhaps it's not too late for them to change their mind. It makes absolutely no sense and no serious product would ever consider not labeling their buttons. It's perhaps the most simplistic element of user experience. Someone doesn't have to be in the field to understand the importance of it.

 

I was looking at the X5...almost pulled the trigger... but I can't get past those unlabeled buttons or the idea of a UI that is difficult to use.

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