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Anyone have some any recommendations for metal music that has some good base? I have Denon d1100 right now and looking to upgrade. Listen to other types if music as well. Looking for a good base sound and soundstage. Using iPhone and willing to get amp if it would help. Range: $400 or less for the headphones.
Been looking at hifiman he 400 and beyer 880/990.
Also ultrasone 780 or 900 ( I know these are closed)
post #2 of 35
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Hifiman he-400, beyer 880, fidelio x1. Any thoughts? Anyone?
post #3 of 35

Hiya, HE 400. I have heard that there would be discount of 100 US$ for HE 400 on black friday.

You need an amp to get full benefits of HE 400.

 

why HE 400? check this, http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HE400


Edited by rubinstein - 11/23/13 at 2:47pm
post #4 of 35
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Thanks for the info. I've read though that thread.
Source: iPhone 5
Amp: PA2V2 ( but will upgrade to something else portable if it will help)
So many good reviews about the he-400. I'm looking for something with good bass and soundstage and soapy people seem to rave about these headphones.
post #5 of 35

I have the HE-400 and I listen to some metal. It does pretty well with the genre -- it gives a lot of crunch and aggression to the guitars, and it has no trouble sorting out fast drums. 

Purely IMO, a big soundstage is bad for metal. Metal wants to be an in your face wall of sound, and a big soundstage just spreads it thin and makes the aggression sound kind of off. For certain types of metal anyway. More instrumental or experimental types are fine with a big soundstage. I digress though, as the HE-400 soundstage is fine for most metal. 

post #6 of 35

Based on owning a Denon, the recommendation of the HE-400 is great. What kinds of metal do you typically listen to? I love how symphonic and progressive sound on my HE-400, but I feel that they are a little revealing for poorly mastered material and will put it to shame. The Beyerdynamic's would probably be good for metal too and from what I've read the DT880 is the sweet spot. The mid-range is a bit recessed on the HE-400, but certainly better than on a Denon. It also has that effortless attack and decay in the mids that planar magnetic transducers produce. The Beyer will probably have a better mid-range, but the HE-400 has amazing clarity in the highs and flat bass similar to the LCD-2.


Edited by ToddTheMetalGod - 11/23/13 at 3:34pm
post #7 of 35

2 months ago, I was in market for a headphone which gives better sound stage, ample amount of bass than K240 mkii and with detachable cable.

I was breaking my head to choose from these options

Beyer DT880

Sony MA900

Philips Fidelo X1

AudioTechnica AD900X

AKG Q701 / K702

HE 400

 

I chose HE 400 and I am happy about my choice.

Make sure that you get HE 400 rev 2, if you buy used ones.


Edited by rubinstein - 11/23/13 at 3:36pm
post #8 of 35
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Thanks for all the responses. I listen to all kinds of metal, but recently been listening to a lot of progressive metal (Opeth) but I listen to other sorts of music as well.
For those of you that have the he-400, what amp are you using?
post #9 of 35
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Originally Posted by Halonoonan View Post

For those of you that have the he-400, what amp are you using?


I am using the Emotiva Mini-X A-100, but that's not necessary by any means. It's a speaker amp. I just got it for fun. Any reasonably powerful SS amp like the Schiit Magni or JDS O2 would be fine. Tubes are fine too, just make sure the amp has at least 200-300 mw. I used the Little Dot MKIII with my HE-400s for a while and it didn't have enough power IMO. It clipped at high volumes. 

post #10 of 35
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Originally Posted by Halonoonan View Post

Thanks for all the responses. I listen to all kinds of metal, but recently been listening to a lot of progressive metal (Opeth) but I listen to other sorts of music as well.
For those of you that have the he-400, what amp are you using?


I am using E17. I am waiting for an upgrade to Audio gd 15.32/11.32

post #11 of 35
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Has anyone tried the c and C bh2 with it? How does the e 17 sound? Do you think an e11 or 12 would sound good? I want something I can bring down to my garage gym with me.
post #12 of 35
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Originally Posted by Halonoonan View Post

Thanks for all the responses. I listen to all kinds of metal, but recently been listening to a lot of progressive metal (Opeth) but I listen to other sorts of music as well.
For those of you that have the he-400, what amp are you using?


I'm currently using a FiiO E17, no plans to upgrade for the time being. I'm satisfied with the sound and am focusing on improving portable rig and speaker system. It doesn't sound bad, but I imagine it could be more refined, detailed, and more textured in the bass region. It is certainly fine for listening, but the HE-400 has more potential to unlock given better amplification quality. If I were getting a new amp I would probably go with an Asgard 2, O2, or something equivalent. I think the HE-400's sound great with Opeth, great dynamics for the drums and imaging for ambiance. The acoustic guitars sound nice, despite the recession in the upper mid-range. These observations were on Blackwater Park, Damnation, and Ghost Reveries, by the way. Remember to purchase the velour pads if you go with the HE-400 though, it smooths the treble and mid-range.


Edited by ToddTheMetalGod - 11/23/13 at 10:24pm
post #13 of 35
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Good to hear that Opeth sounds good on these. Those happen to be the 3 albums that I listen to.
Any else ever try it on any other portable amps?
post #14 of 35
I have a pair of Sennheiser hd 600s and Opeth sounds fantastic on them. The bass isn't super pounding but is adequate. The mids is where they really shine. Tracks like "windowpane" and "in my time of need" really shine because of the way the headphones articulate the guitars. The soundstage is phenomenal. I haven't heard the he-400s, almost got them, but I really enjoy metal on my hd 600s.

I agree with manbear that a big soundstage can not be great for really in your face metal, but for Opeth I think it's perfect. IMO anything prog metal benefits from a great soundstage.

Once again I haven't heard the he-400, just stating my experience with the sennheiser hd 600
post #15 of 35
I vote for the DT880's as they are my favorite metal cans by a large margin. They are very fast and do electric guitars excellently. Highly recommended.
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