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post #16 of 76
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H-100J's just came in and currently giving them a listen. Will write a review asap!

How do they sound mate? 1plus2 crusher?
post #17 of 76
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Here we go! T-Peos H-100J!!!

 

 

 

Came in a really small cute box.

This one included foam tips and rubber tips but not black rubber tips that I got with the H-200. The semi-transparent grey rubber tips.

I found the black rubber tips to give better isolation so I stuck my left over black rubber tips those on there.

They also included a over the ear guides, a short (approx 7cm) 3.5 to 3.5mm extension cable, and a small zipper pouch.

 

Well here is a brief review on sound.

Please take note that this is purely subjective.

 

H-100J > FiiO E17 (no treble or bass boost applied) > HTC One (poweramp) connected by usb otg

 

 

Highs: Very bright and crisp. Sometimes details are lost through the sibilance but I found it somewhat recoverable through eq tweaking. Overall I am quite satisfied with the highs. The details of percussion really come alive. Of course there is some clipping but this one's good enough for me considering that I got it for $60.

 

Mids: The upper mids can be really harsh at times. I listened to a lot of different genres of music (electronica, acoustic, rock, rmb, hiphop, etc) and I would not listen to any rock with a lot of guitars using strong overdrive and distortion. The mids are really important to me when listening to rock music because of the guitar tones but it just sounds way too harsh many times. I also found the lower mids lacking sometimes making the music sound a bit dry.

 

Lows: Just like the H-200's, these in-ears really respond surprisingly well to any eq tweaking or boost from the E17. The sub-bass and bass regions are really smooth but aren't slow like some bass head in-ears. They can be quick when they need to be but didn't find them super punchy or anything.

 

All in all, I am impressed again with the sound of this one considering how much I got it for. Again it could be compared with other in-ears two three times it's price. If you're into that v-shape eq curve, this is the real deal. During my first impression, it reminded me of Atomic Floyd's minidarts which costs 4 times more.

 

Lemme know if you have any questions.

post #18 of 76

Thanks for the first impressions. 

How do you feel they perform with vocals, namely female vocals? There were a few members not so happy with that section on the first series, in the end it's what wore me down as although I could handle them I found other IEM's that did a better job. Do the vocals sound full from the lower to upper mids? is there any kind of nasally, squeakiness going on? I've been assured by T-PEOS this model is different and we're sure to experience a new H-100J. But if they haven't repaired the mid range there will be problems.


Edited by H20Fidelity - 11/29/13 at 10:26pm
post #19 of 76
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I'm afraid that they have not improved the mids. Vocals can sound 'nasally' and dry. Especially female vocals. The music may sound full but this is not the case with vocals at least for me. I see the mids as the only major flaw of this one. However, I do find that it makes some of my music really shine. Especially some pop, indie rock and instrumentals.
post #20 of 76
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Although we can always find something negative about any iem, I just want to say that I have never heard anything better than the h-100j in its price range. Just in that says something.
post #21 of 76
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I'm afraid that they have not improved the mids. Vocals can sound 'nasally' and dry. Especially female vocals. The music may sound full but this is not the case with vocals at least for me. I see the mids as the only major flaw of this one. However, I do find that it makes some of my music really shine. Especially some pop, indie rock and instrumentals.


Ugh,. I'll wait until hear them to make total judgment, but that sounds very reminiscent of the first model weakness. :rolleyes: 

Thanks for chiming in though. 

 

post #22 of 76
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Originally Posted by jonyoo View Post
 

Here we go! T-Peos H-100J!!!

 

 

 

Came in a really small cute box.

This one included foam tips and rubber tips but not black rubber tips that I got with the H-200. The semi-transparent grey rubber tips.

I found the black rubber tips to give better isolation so I stuck my left over black rubber tips those on there.

They also included a over the ear guides, a short (approx 7cm) 3.5 to 3.5mm extension cable, and a small zipper pouch.

 

Well here is a brief review on sound.

Please take note that this is purely subjective.

 

H-100J > FiiO E17 (no treble or bass boost applied) > HTC One (poweramp) connected by usb otg

 

 

Highs: Very bright and crisp. Sometimes details are lost through the sibilance but I found it somewhat recoverable through eq tweaking. Overall I am quite satisfied with the highs. The details of percussion really come alive. Of course there is some clipping but this one's good enough for me considering that I got it for $60.

 

Mids: The upper mids can be really harsh at times. I listened to a lot of different genres of music (electronica, acoustic, rock, rmb, hiphop, etc) and I would not listen to any rock with a lot of guitars using strong overdrive and distortion. The mids are really important to me when listening to rock music because of the guitar tones but it just sounds way too harsh many times. I also found the lower mids lacking sometimes making the music sound a bit dry.

 

Lows: Just like the H-200's, these in-ears really respond surprisingly well to any eq tweaking or boost from the E17. The sub-bass and bass regions are really smooth but aren't slow like some bass head in-ears. They can be quick when they need to be but didn't find them super punchy or anything.

 

All in all, I am impressed again with the sound of this one considering how much I got it for. Again it could be compared with other in-ears two three times it's price. If you're into that v-shape eq curve, this is the real deal. During my first impression, it reminded me of Atomic Floyd's minidarts which costs 4 times more.

 

Lemme know if you have any questions.

Awesome first impression:)

How do you find the clarity? Are we getting that good ol' H-100 clarity? :o

post #23 of 76

Interesting...

 

Original H-100 started my love affair with hybrids, whether or not they have 'fixed' the hollow mids, @ $56 it is by far the cheapest hybrid, cheaper than the-rather-mediocre Maxell DBA700 

post #24 of 76
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Interesting...

 

Original H-100 started my love affair with hybrids, whether or not they have 'fixed' the hollow mids, @ $56 it is by far the cheapest hybrid, cheaper than the-rather-mediocre Maxell DBA700 

A hybrid at this price is unbeatable. Well, so far.

 

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Awesome first impression:)

How do you find the clarity? Are we getting that good ol' H-100 clarity? :o

Yes, they still have the clarity :)

post #25 of 76

Any rough idea about treble extension between this and the earlier version? I would have thought they had slightly dialed it back here.

post #26 of 76
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Any rough idea about treble extension between this and the earlier version? I would have thought they had slightly dialed it back here.

I'm sorry I don't own the earlier version. This one is suppose to be a whole different version on it's own with different drivers than the H-100.

I have the H-200 and I know the treble on those are dialed down compared to the H-100J. Extension seems similar but quantity or the level of treble is a lot more on the H-100J comparing it to the low and mid levels. If it's v-shaped, I want to say that the high curve is a lot steeper on these new ones.

post #27 of 76

Just returned from the post office about an hour ago. I have some pics of the boxing and accessories.

They still sound similar like I remember the old H-100 but perhaps a touch warmer in the mids? The mid range has surely had some improvements made to my ears, mostly in the lower regions. I don't hear those vocals sucked out or as hollow as the first series but a touch grainy or dry. I'm testing a wide variety of female vocals they're satisfying to me, still a touch absent in the lower mid range but nothing like I remember personally. I doubt they'll draw negative attention or stand out as obvious as the first H-100, so where vocals won't be their shinning point I doubt they'll be a glaring fault. They're a touch harsh in the upper mids and peak a touch with certain vocals if the volume is overly high. The sub- bass is still tight and present filling out the stage and they have the clarity of the old series. This is all with about an hour on them so take a few salt grains with your sausage sandwich.  

It's definitely better, definitely....

Some pics.


 

 



 

 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 12/1/13 at 9:28pm
post #28 of 76
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post
 

Just returned from the post office about an hour ago. I have some pics of the boxing and accessories.

They still sound similar like I remember the old H-100 but perhaps a touch warmer in the mids? The mid range has surely had some improvements made to my ears, mostly in the lower regions. I don't hear those vocals sucked out or as hollow as the first series but a touch grainy or dry. I'm testing a wide variety of female vocals they're satisfying to me, still a touch absent in the lower mid range but nothing like I remember personally. I doubt they'll draw negative attention or stand out as obvious as the first H-100, so where vocals won't be their shinning point I doubt they'll be a glaring fault. They're a touch harsh in the upper mids and peak a touch with certain vocals if the volume is overly high. The sub- bass is still tight and present filling out the stage and they have the clarity of the old series. This is all with about an hour on them so take a few salt grains with your sausage sandwich.  

It's definitely better, definitely....

 

Wow they got there a lot faster than I thought! Good to hear that they're better than the H-100. Don't own them and I tried them out way long ago so couldn't exactly remember what they sounded like. I was really negative with my review probably because I come from listening to the H-200. That's why the flaws in the mids stood out to me.

post #29 of 76
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Wow they got there a lot faster than I thought! Good to hear that they're better than the H-100. Don't own them and I tried them out way long ago so couldn't exactly remember what they sounded like. I was really negative with my review probably because I come from listening to the H-200. That's why the flaws in the mids stood out to me.


They're no H-200, however I think they're better then something like Hisounds BA-100 single armature by quite a bit doing a quick A/B between them. For people who don't want to fork over the $$$ for H-200 I can see H-100J being satisfying. it's not perfect and people who prefer warmth may be turned off rather quickly. They also need to tone down that peak in the upper mids a touch. it's kind of on/off depending on the album / track and your volume levels, but they don't sound as hollow like the older pairs and hold more note weight in the mid range.

Btw: There are two other reviewers receiving a set of H-100J, so we'll get a number of impressions from different angles. 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 12/1/13 at 9:48pm
post #30 of 76

(...sitting quietly waiting for the H-100 haterz group to come rushing to this thread and turn it upside down...)

 

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