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I just got my purple hearts yesterday. Compared to my LCD2's, they definitely have more sparkle, but the bass is MIA. So far, not impressed.



I see.  Heard a few people say the bass isn't as present as the 2's and 3's.

 

post #662 of 1563
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I just got my purple hearts yesterday. Compared to my LCD2's, they definitely have more sparkle, but the bass is MIA. So far, not impressed.

After the LCD-2s, every headphone in the world would be lacking in the bass department.  Let your ears adjust and within a week you'll be changing your tune.  There is no question in my mind that the LCD-X C (with high-quality dark-sounding source/amp and copper rather than silver cables) is better than the LCD-2.  Now, play both on something bright like the Mjolnir and the LCD-2 will sound better than the LCD-XC (i.e., with a bright-sounding source/amp, the XCs tend to sound too shrill for my taste).


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After the LCD-2s, every headphone in the world would be lacking in the bass department.  Let your ears adjust and within a week you'll be changing your tune.  There is no question in my mind that the LCD-X C (with high-quality dark-sounding source/amp and copper rather than silver cables) is better than the LCD-X.  Now, play both on something bright like the Mjolnir and the LCD-2 will sound better than the LCD-XC (i.e., with a bright-sounding source/amp, the XCs tend to sound too shrill for my taste).

+1. A good copper cable makes all the difference. I highly recommend the Black Dragon by Moon Audio.

I'm still torn between finding a good dark-sounding amp and flogging all my gear to buy a nice portable setup.
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I just got my purple hearts yesterday. Compared to my LCD2's, they definitely have more sparkle, but the bass is MIA. So far, not impressed.

My first reaction as well. I wanted to return it to Audez'e. Two things prevailed. I live in India and the thought of sending it back repackaged became tiring. Second, I gave it time using my Moon Audio balanced cables. Fast forward, the XC has become my go-to headphone. I have the LCD 2.2, 3, Fostex TH 900 and the HD 650 as well. And I drive the XC with the Mjolnir and it does not matter. The bass is tight, extended and impactful in a wonderful way. It's the most natural sounding headphone I have (until yesterday that is, since I got the Stax 007). I change things up using the Emotiva mini-X from time to time and the XC sounds just fine.

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My amp is a Decware CSP2+/Taboo II combo that I've upgraded (stepped attenuators, Cardas wiring, beeswax cap's, etc.), and my cables are

balanced DIY using Cardas hookup wire in micro paracord.

 

I definitely will give them more head time. I'm just not sure, at this point, that they're worth the money. On the other hand, what 'phone in our

realm is? :wink_face:

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Originally Posted by funch View Post
 

My amp is a Decware CSP2+/Taboo II combo that I've upgraded (stepped attenuators, Cardas wiring, beeswax cap's, etc.), and my cables are

balanced DIY using Cardas hookup wire in micro paracord.

 

I definitely will give them more head time. I'm just not sure, at this point, that they're worth the money. On the other hand, what 'phone in our

realm is? :wink_face:

I have the Decware Taboo and CSP2 as well.  I've used the Taboo in the past (the CSP2+ was designed to drive the high impedance headphones such as T1 and HD800, not lower-impedance).  The Taboo does an adequate job driving the XC, but in order to get the best out of any Audeze headphone, it is best to go with Solid State.  By the way, with the Taboo it is better to use darker/warmer sounding tubes with the XC, since these headphones tend to be kind of bright.  Thus, think Mullards with these babies.

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+1. A good copper cable makes all the difference. I highly recommend the Black Dragon by Moon Audio.

I'm still torn between finding a good dark-sounding amp and flogging all my gear to buy a nice portable setup.
I'm wondering guys...to go with the copper cable, should we not be looking at something like the Icon Audio HP 8, tube headphone amp to add the warmth and smoothness the XC's crave?
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My first reaction as well. I wanted to return it to Audez'e. Two things prevailed. I live in India and the thought of sending it back repackaged became tiring. Second, I gave it time using my Moon Audio balanced cables. Fast forward, the XC has become my go-to headphone. I have the LCD 2.2, 3, Fostex TH 900 and the HD 650 as well. And I drive the XC with the Mjolnir and it does not matter. The bass is tight, extended and impactful in a wonderful way. It's the most natural sounding headphone I have (until yesterday that is, since I got the Stax 007). I change things up using the Emotiva mini-X from time to time and the XC sounds just fine.
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I'm curious as to how you're view on the xc evolved compared to the 3?
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I'm wondering guys...to go with the copper cable, should we not be looking at something like the Icon Audio HP 8, tube headphone amp to add the warmth and smoothness the XC's crave?

By all accounts that's a very good amp and one I considered in the past when I had the T1 (Project86 recommends it).

I may be wrong, but I'm not sure it'd be great with orthos.
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By all accounts that's a very good amp and one I considered in the past when I had the T1 (Project86 recommends it).

I may be wrong, but I'm not sure it'd be great with orthos.
Interesting....any reasons why not and would that go for must valve amps? Anyone she'd more light on this?
post #671 of 1563
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Interesting....any reasons why not and would that go for must valve amps? Anyone she'd more light on this?

This particular amp doesn't seem to deliver that much current. 451mW into 50ohms would probably be enough to drive some planars effectively, but I would be looking for something more powerful. Regardless of how good it sounded, there'd always be that doubt in the back of my mind that the headphones were not being heard at their full potential. If I owned Senns or Beyers it would be a different story.

The Pathos Aurium has ideal specs and from what I've read about the character of the amp it seems to be perfect for the XC. The price is good in the UK too.
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This particular amp doesn't seem to deliver that much current. 451mW into 50ohms would probably be enough to drive some planars effectively, but I would be looking for something more powerful. Regardless of how good it sounded, there'd always be that doubt in the back of my mind that the headphones were not being heard at their full potential. If I owned Senns or Beyers it would be a different story.

The Pathos Aurium has ideal specs and from what I've read about the character of the amp it seems to be perfect for the XC. The price is good in the UK too.
Thanks for the recommendation Tony...Will check it out. Anyone else got a great synergy tip? Especially in a valve based amp....I'm like a moth to a glowing tube flame! :-)
post #673 of 1563
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post

This particular amp doesn't seem to deliver that much current. 451mW into 50ohms would probably be enough to drive some planars effectively, but I would be looking for something more powerful. Regardless of how good it sounded, there'd always be that doubt in the back of my mind that the headphones were not being heard at their full potential. If I owned Senns or Beyers it would be a different story.

The Pathos Aurium has ideal specs and from what I've read about the character of the amp it seems to be perfect for the XC. The price is good in the UK too.
Oh....and maybe under the £500 mark...?
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My first reaction as well. I wanted to return it to Audez'e. Two things prevailed. I live in India and the thought of sending it back repackaged became tiring. Second, I gave it time using my Moon Audio balanced cables. Fast forward, the XC has become my go-to headphone. I have the LCD 2.2, 3, Fostex TH 900 and the HD 650 as well. And I drive the XC with the Mjolnir and it does not matter. The bass is tight, extended and impactful in a wonderful way. It's the most natural sounding headphone I have (until yesterday that is, since I got the Stax 007). I change things up using the Emotiva mini-X from time to time and the XC sounds just fine.
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I'm curious as to how you're view on the xc evolved compared to the 3?

Good question ! I bought the 3's from a Head-fier and they were already "broken in" or almost. My XCs were shipped new. Hence when I first heard the 3 and I hear it now, the "evolution" is more subtle. Then and now, the 3 to me is a very neutral headphone with everything done right. Repeated hearings have not lead me to any epiphany like "wow, this is the first time I'm hearing this".

 

The XC is still being "burnt in".  The music is turning from "what have I done" to "now I can hear the bass extending low, the top end is opening up etc etc."

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Good question ! I bought the 3's from a Head-fier and they were already "broken in" or almost. My XCs were shipped new. Hence when I first heard the 3 and I hear it now, the "evolution" is more subtle. Then and now, the 3 to me is a very neutral headphone with everything done right. Repeated hearings have not lead me to any epiphany like "wow, this is the first time I'm hearing this".

 

The XC is still being "burnt in".  The music is turning from "what have I done" to "now I can hear the bass extending low, the top end is opening up etc etc."

Agree, the 3s will not change much with burn-in. However, they scale phenomenally with TOTL amps.

Prior to my Pinnacle, the EAR HP4 was stunning. 

With the Sylvania Bad Boys driving the Pinnacle, the LCD3s are my absolutely favorite cans.

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