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post #631 of 2642
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

Well done! Added to the list lol

 

BTW, those of you who have the Xc, what is the sound stage like? I cannot get over how much bigger the stage is on the Xs than the LCD-2s...it's become a strength of the headphone, in my opinion. Movies are AMAZING on these things. 

You are now pushing me towards the X...somebody tell me that the 3s have as big a soundstage as the X...pretty please :angry_face:

post #632 of 2642
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

You are now pushing me towards the X...somebody tell me that the 3s have as big a soundstage as the X...pretty please :angry_face:

 

 

I really didn't expect this, to be honest. You know how some headphones that have a bigger sound stage have vocals that are sort of just hovering in space? Well on the Xs they are right there smack in the middle of the sound stage where they're supposed to be....palpable as if I could just reach out and touch the singer. So you're not really thinking big sound stage at that point...great imaging, yes, but not sound stage. But then as you listen, you start realizing that there is this 3D soundfield with both depth and height, and whereas the 2s are sort of confined and intimate, the Xs are putting instruments and sound effects all over the place. For the last hour I've been going back and forth between my T1s and the Xs, and by God the Xs image better AND have a slightly larger sound stage...I'm very impressed by this, cause the T1s do very well here. I love the bass on the T1s but the Xs win in that department...the top end is airy and beautiful...and I like having them on my head. 

 

My goal was to try and find something about the T1s that I liked better than the Xs, cause I like having different headphones for different uses, but dammit if I can't find a single thing. 

 

But yeah, the sound stage thing is very impressive...if memory serves, the HD800s was slightly larger, but I don't think it was by much...I never thought these would win vs the T1s in this area, though. So now I can't help but wonder what it's like on the Xc, too *evil grin*

post #633 of 2642
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

You are now pushing me towards the X...somebody tell me that the 3s have as big a soundstage as the X...pretty please :angry_face:

Nope, X has the bigger sound stage most def.

post #634 of 2642
I've just spent a rather wonderful afternoon with the XC's and LCD 3, straight from colorfly C4 and also with additional dac amp combo from Teac.....I need a closed but wanted to compare with the 3 as is I'd heard them before. Quick summary is that I prefer the 3's for extended listening due to the smooth and extended range, with deep bass and smooth treble, along with lighter more comfortable wearing, resulting in non exhausting listening. The XC excelled with vocals and more electronic based popular music, due to more pronounced mids and treble, giving a more up front presentation. Verdict is....they'll do just fine thank you...although, if only I existed in the world the 3's would have come home instead. I was offered the X to listen to, but refused in case they were better than the 3's as I need closed.
Edited by deafanddumb - 1/30/14 at 10:57am
post #635 of 2642
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Originally Posted by deafanddumb View Post

I've just spent a rather wonderful afternoon with the XC's and LCD 3, straight from colorfly C4 and also with additional dac amp combo from Teac.....I need a closed but wanted to compare with the 3 as is I'd heard them before. Quick summary is that I prefer the 3's for extended listening due to the smooth and extended range, with deep bass and smooth treble, along with lighter more comfortable wearing, resulting in non exhausting listening. The XC excelled with vocals and more electronic based popular music, due to more pronounced mids and treble, giving a more up front presentation. Verdict is....they'll do just fine thank you...although, if only I existed in the world the 3's would have come home instead. I was offered the X to listen to, but refused in case they were better than the 3's as I need closed.


Fully agreement! I also have both but when I have to choose one it would be the LCD-3! But many times I need a closed one so I bought the XCs. For me the best closed headphone on the market. On second place is my T5p.

post #636 of 2642
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Originally Posted by Trance_Gott View Post


Fully agreement! I also have both but when I have to choose one it would be the LCD-3! But many times I need a closed one so I bought the XCs. For me the best closed headphone on the market. On second place is my T5p.
Nice....unfortunately I only have the one....although that is still quite lucky! My friend is thinking of getting the T5p...for the looks, weight, portability and possible use and good results with most portable devices...they've heard my tank like XC's and like the sound, but what would they miss in comparison by having the T5p's?
post #637 of 2642
T5p has the wider soundstage but is thinner sounding as XC. The Bass and Mids of the XC are awesome and in summary better. I hear the T5p when I want a laid back sound. The XC is more energetic. My main music is Prog Rock. And for this music you need fast headphones and T5p and XC are very fast sounding. Both are the 2 best closed headphones imo. On third place Sig Pro. A TH900 or W3000ANV have not a good isolation so these are not real closed headphones and not belongs to the closed backs with very good isolation.
post #638 of 2642
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Originally Posted by Trance_Gott View Post

T5p has the wider soundstage but is thinner sounding as XC. The Bass and Mids of the XC are awesome and in summary better. I hear the T5p when I want a laid back sound. The XC is more energetic. My main music is Prog Rock. And for this music you need fast headphones and T5p and XC are very fast sounding. Both are the 2 best closed headphones imo. On third place Sig Pro. A TH900 or W3000ANV have not a good isolation so these are not real closed headphones and not belongs to the closed backs with very good isolation.
So what would you say that the T5p's beat the XC's at?
post #639 of 2642
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Originally Posted by deafanddumb View Post

So what would you say that the T5p's beat the XC's at?
Soundstage, Isolation and Comfort.
Edited by Trance_Gott - 1/30/14 at 1:39pm
post #640 of 2642
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Originally Posted by Trance_Gott View Post


Soundstage, Isolation and Comfort.

Yes, yes, and yes! I fully agree.  By the way, try the T5p with the ALO RX MK3-B+ portable amp (the one with the bass knob) and suddenly the thinness is gone.  In my opinion, the T5p sounds better out of portable devices/amps than the XCs...now, the XCs sound better out of large desktop amps...definitely to be played at home, not in the street.

post #641 of 2642
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

You are now pushing me towards the X...somebody tell me that the 3s have as big a soundstage as the X...pretty please :angry_face:

I would say that the width/depth of the imaging is about the same between the X and 3, but the imaging precision and location of the players in that sound stage has definitely been improved with the LCD-X.

post #642 of 2642

Received my pair today. Here is the obligatory graph

 

I have been very happy with my Smeggy Thunderpants (with LCD-2) pads for three years. It was only when Audeze came out with closed phones that I wanted to upgrade. Since the Thunderpants are no longer available except for used, there is likely limited interest in comparison (though the MD Alphas are similar in philosophy) but here goes. The XCs are much more efficient. Isolation is about the same, as well as I can tell by rapidly switching between them. The XCs perform pretty much as I was expecting based on experience with the LCD-2 and 3 at meets. The main improvement is linearity. The XC is simply completely neutral to my perception (bass seems a bit less than the LCD-2s though, alas, unless this is something that changes with break-in), and the 'Pants are somewhat colored in comparison . The XCs also preserve detail better. While I can listen to lossless at work (where I use them), I mostly listen to streaming, and the differences even show up with Pandora One, MOG and Play. The difference isn't super dramatic (the 'Pants are very good), but it is definitely strong enough to make the purchase worthwhile to me.

 

I like a shorter cable for work, and I didn't want to hack the supplied cable. The craze for large gauge, woven cables never made much sense to me. Headphones are 1000 times more efficient than speakers, and mixing the left and right cables would seem to reduce channel separation. I suspect some of these cables are being used as expensive tone controls. At any rate, I decided to get a cable made by a custom pro audio cable manufacturer I have used before. Connectors are Neutrik and Switchcraft, and the cable is Mogami (if you aren't familiar with them, they are dominant in the recording industry). Cost for a 5' cable was less than $60. If anyone is interested, send me a PM and I can pass along the details. They could do balanced also if desired.

 

 

post #643 of 2642
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Originally Posted by SHAHZADA123 View Post

I'm really liking the combination of CLAS-dB/RSA71b with the LCD-XCs. Fully balanced input to output using Silver Dragon Moon Audio cables. 


I think the slightly warm sound signature of the 71B works well.


Has anyone tried any other portable setups.   

 



Do you connect your CLAS -db to power outlet while connecting to RSA71b ?
I have problem connecting both the AC and Mini Balanced on CLAS -db, it only allow me to insert one.

I think there is a design flaw that once you plug RSA balanced connector on CLAS you cannot plus AC power charger.

Weird design, bit disappointed.
post #644 of 2642

Does anyone else have the problem where their ears rub against the fazor grills? 

post #645 of 2642
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Originally Posted by ariesq View Post

Does anyone else have the problem where their ears rub against the fazor grills? 
Yes....most annoying!
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