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post #451 of 1709
While I enjoy reading some reviews about the three full size headphones I have, to which the LCD-XC is one, I don't really take any notice of them.
The reason for that is because unless the person(s) doing the review had the exact same audio equipment as I have , they wouldn't be hearing the same as I do.

Onto isolation and leakage of the LCD-XC, some find them to be good at both, whereas others don't, and I'm one of the don'ts, and this is with the LCD-XC's original headband.
When it comes to testing for isolation, IMO the only way to do that is with no music playing, that way there'd be no interference with outside noise, and to me when wearing the LCD-XC with no music playing, it's very easy to hear outside noise, however, when doing the same thing with my UM Miracles, I can hear a very faint noise, and with music playing I can hear nothing from the outside, whereas with the LCD-XC the only time I can't hear outside noise is when the music is being listened to loudly.
When it comes to SQ of the LCD-XC's, to me they are not far behind my SR-009's, and with some of the songs in my collection, I find the LCD-XC's sound better than the 009's.

P.S. The amps I have and use with my LCD-XC and 009 are GS-Xmk2 and BHSE .
I'm also very happy with the LCD-XC when using my Pico Slim.
post #452 of 1709
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post

While I enjoy reading some reviews about the three full size headphones I have, to which the LCD-XC is one, I don't really take any notice of them.
The reason for that is because unless the person(s) doing the review had the exact same audio equipment as I have , they wouldn't be hearing the same as I do.

Onto isolation and leakage of the LCD-XC, some find them to be good at both, whereas others don't, and I'm one of the don'ts, and this is with the LCD-XC's original headband.
When it comes to testing for isolation, IMO the only way to do that is with no music playing, that way there'd be no interference with outside noise, and to me when wearing the LCD-XC with no music playing, it's very easy to hear outside noise, however, when doing the same thing with my UM Miracles, I can hear a very faint noise, and with music playing I can hear nothing from the outside, whereas with the LCD-XC the only time I can't hear outside noise is when the music is being listened to loudly.
When it comes to SQ of the LCD-XC's, to me they are not far behind my SR-009's, and with some of the songs in my collection, I find the LCD-XC's sound better than the 009's.

P.S. The amps I have and use with my LCD-XC and 009 are GS-Xmk2 and BHSE .
I'm also very happy with the LCD-XC when using my Pico Slim.

thanks for this post. I am thinking of selling my T1 and saving to get the LCD XC. I think i will get the pico slim as well. I might sell my cowon and fiio also and need a good player. What do you use as a player - ipod? I wonder would the new Fiio X5 and pico slim combo be a good match for the LCD XC? 

post #453 of 1709
Phew, I made it through that tome of a review.

The TLDNR version...he likes them, saying that they are 90% of the LCD3 but with the advantage of closed back sound isolation. He found the bass presentation good, but drier than the LCD-2 or 3. He found the center imaging to be more solid than the open back designs, but less airy on the edges. He didn't specifically mention the treble presentation...at least not in language I could comprehend. wink.gif

He said he preferred them the any of the HE offerings and to the Alpha Dogs...but not twice as much, let alone 3x as much.

I put mine on last night and found them more enjoyable than I had in other recent sessions. The only variable...the new Sylvania 6F8G tubes I added to the Woo WA22. If those tubes can take the edge off the upper midrange and treble, I think I'll go to them more often. That said, switching back to the X's still broadened my smile even more.
Edited by leesure - 1/3/14 at 5:56am
post #454 of 1709
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post


thanks for this post. I am thinking of selling my T1 and saving to get the LCD XC. I think i will get the pico slim as well. I might sell my cowon and fiio also and need a good player. What do you use as a player - ipod? I wonder would the new Fiio X5 and pico slim combo be a good match for the LCD XC? 

Yes, it's a classic iPod. I have tried my LCD-XC with just the iPod, but to me they sound better when using the Pico Slim. I also wrote in one of my posts, that I was surprised at how well the LCD-XC sounded driven by the Pico Slim because that amp is for IEM's, the Pico Slim also doesn't need to be on full volume when driving the LCD-XC, at least to me it doesn't.
I don't know what the LCD-XC's sound like with any other portable amp and source because the Pico Slim and iPod are the only portable gear I've heard.
post #455 of 1709
I am in need of urgent cash so going to sell mine. Anyone interested please leave me a pm. Thank you. It is a really good headphone I have to admit and I will regret in future but urgent issue leaves me no choice.
post #456 of 1709
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Originally Posted by nk77 View Post
 

An interesting write up on the LCD-XC here by Srajan (6moons) on Darko's DAR site: http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2014/01/audeze-lcd-xc-headphones-review/

Oh my goodness gracious...Srajan giving yet another master class in how to mangle the English language to the point of utter incomprehensibility.  I'm dizzy.  I have a headache.  I advice everyone that before you enter the tortuous waters of the River Srajan you take two Advils and a hearty dose of Dramamine...as Bette Davis used to say, "put on your seatbelts, 'cause it 's going to be a bumpy ride".  There are at least five or six convoluted metaphors in each of his paragraphs...this is no way to communicate your thoughts clearly.  This guy truly disrespects his readers.  An  unmitigated Ego Trip in full flight!


Edited by figaro69 - 1/3/14 at 7:34am
post #457 of 1709
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post


I can listen to them in the living room when the TV is on and not be bothered by room noise. I don't get any complaints about sound leaking out either. They isolate pretty well.

I am increasingly thinking that when I get my XCs next month, I will only use them in the office and get another (much cheaper) headphone for travel. Looking at the XC isolation graphs, they are decent but not great (and it is hard to shut out plane noise), and I am also nervous about damaging an expensive pair of headphones. For the small percentage of time I am on a plane, I can probably live with lesser sound.

post #458 of 1709
For travelling I'd never use my LCD-XC, and only use either my IEM or CIEM.
post #459 of 1709
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post

For travelling I'd never use my LCD-XC, and only use either my IEM or CIEM.

I only want it for outside. I don't like IEMs. There is no closed headphone out there that i am interested in. The Fostex TH900 - i hate the look of the thing. If they had a Dennon d5000 or 7000 that was properly closed i would go for that. The alpha dog is probably too hard to drive and too big and awkward. so there is nothing left really that i would want. Dont like the mid-fi beyers - too ugly. 

 

I would love something that sounds like an LCD2 but not as heavy and fully closed. 1700 dollars is a bit much to be roaming around with. 

post #460 of 1709
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post

Oh my goodness gracious...Srajan giving yet another master class in how to mangle the English language to the point of utter incomprehensibility.  I'm dizzy.  I have a headache.  I advice everyone that before you enter the tortuous waters of the River Srajan you take two Advils and a hearty dose of Dramamine...as Bette Davis used to say, "put on your seatbelts, 'cause it 's going to be a bumpy ride".  There are at least five or six convoluted metaphors in each of his paragraphs...this is no way to communicate your thoughts clearly.  This guy truly disrespects his readers.  An  unmitigated Ego Trip in full flight!

His writing style is ill suited to what he's writing about. Nobody wants to wade through all that crap in order to find out whether or not a product is any good. You can imagine him poring over his reviews with a thesaurus in hand, discarding any simple words and paragraphs that may have accidentally crept in there, in favour of all that florid bull**** that he clearly thinks will impress his readers. You're right: unmitigated ego trip. That XC write-up is more about him than it is the headphones purportedly under review.
post #461 of 1709
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post


His writing style is ill suited to what he's writing about. Nobody wants to wade through all that crap in order to find out whether or not a product is any good. You can imagine him poring over his reviews with a thesaurus in hand, discarding any simple words and paragraphs that may have accidentally crept in there, in favour of all that florid bull**** that he clearly thinks will impress his readers. You're right: unmitigated ego trip. That XC write-up is more about him than it is the headphones purportedly under review.

I skimmed it, couldn't bear to read the whole thing.

Isn't that an unusually complicated rig, even by Head-Fi standards?

post #462 of 1709
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

I only want it for outside. I don't like IEMs. There is no closed headphone out there that i am interested in. The Fostex TH900 - i hate the look of the thing. If they had a Dennon d5000 or 7000 that was properly closed i would go for that. The alpha dog is probably too hard to drive and too big and awkward. so there is nothing left really that i would want. Dont like the mid-fi beyers - too ugly. 

I would love something that sounds like an LCD2 but not as heavy and fully closed. 1700 dollars is a bit much to be roaming around with. 


Because IMO the LCD-XC's are extremely well built and somewhat robust, the possibility of damaging them isn't the reason why I wouldn't use them for travelling, the reasons for me not using them for that are isolation and leakage.
Also out of my IEM and CIEM, the CIEM is easily the most comfortable and offers me the best isolation, and because I can barely hear them when they're not in my ears, I've no doubt that when they are the leakage will be zero.
post #463 of 1709
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post


Because IMO the LCD-XC's are extremely well built and somewhat robust, the possibility of damaging them isn't the reason why I wouldn't use them for travelling, the reasons for me not using them for that are isolation and leakage.
Also out of my IEM and CIEM, the CIEM is easily the most comfortable and offers me the best isolation, and because I can barely hear them when they're not in my ears, I've no doubt that when they are the leakage will be zero.

Its not damage with me either - i would be more comfortable with a headphone (closed over ear) that cost less than 1000 outside just in case, you know. but there does not seem to be anything out there in that price range that i like. It would be nice to see a cheaper version of the closed LCD-XC made for on the go. 

post #464 of 1709
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

Its not damage with me either - i would be more comfortable with a headphone (closed over ear) that cost less than 1000 outside just in case, you know. but there does not seem to be anything out there in that price range that i like. It would be nice to see a cheaper version of the closed LCD-XC made for on the go. 

Although I don't think head-fi meetings are a good place for auditioning open headphones, they might be for listening to different noise cancelling headphones.
post #465 of 1709

Well finally I've been able to finalize my thoughts and my review has been posted:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/products/audeze-lcd-xc/reviews/10236

 

Simply an outstanding pair of natural sounding closed headphones....FINALLY!

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