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post #1231 of 2730
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As this is a rather long thread to search, I was wondering if anyone could sum up the differences in sound between the LCD-X and the LCD-XC?

 

The cups on the XC result in a drop in the mid-bass that makes them sound less "thick" than the LCD-X. The compromise for that is a little bit more distortion (harshness).

 

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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post
 

Do the XCs require a lot of hours to burn in? Straight out of the box, they sound OK but not great. Admittedly I am driving them with the Lyr but with 6W into 32 ohms, i believe this should suffice?

Can anyone share their personal experience driving the XC with the Lyr?

 

I don't think they require any at all. I have a vague suspicion that they get a bit better over time, but it could be an illusion.

 

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I loved the XC when I first brought them home, but I also felt that something was missing musically compared to the LCD-2 rev2. However I kept listening to them and did a lot of switching back and forth to try and figure out why I thought I liked the 2s better aside from the bass. As we all know this can get tiresome so I simply put on the XC, a long playlist, and listened. I didn't pick up the LCD-2 for a couple of days but when I did I was shocked at what I heard. My first thoughts were that the LCD-2 sounded sooo slow and muffled. I've always thought the LCD-2 was a bit warm, but I never thought it would feel slow. This is my point. It's all relative to what I was used to hearing before.

I instantly missed the uncanny speed of the XC. The XC is very well textured and when I'm not listening to them I long to hear their fast detailed sound along side with their pin point imaging. Once I've adjusted to the bass and imaging on the XC I don't think I can go back to the LCD-2. The bass, mids and treble present themselves with more speed, finesse and presence, which I've grown to like a lot.

As a matter of fact I think the entire presentation is on a whole new level with the XC. Everything sounds better to me. Much more like I'm "there". If the recording was in a studio it feels like I'm in a studio. If in a concert hall, it feels like a concert hall. Simple jam session, yup. Binaural recordings are simply amazing with the XC. Now I know what others have been talking about when they speak of speed and accuracy with musicality.

Funny thing is that I'm not a detail freak. I can't stand the HD-800 because to me it sounds too forced, like the headphone is forcing the detail on me. The XC just stops at the edge of to much detail. The growl of an electric guitar the smack of the drumsticks, the texture of the piano. All of it while staying cohesive. I thought the LCD-2 would be my endgame headphone and I resisted for a long time to even audition the XC given they were closed back and twice the price. If not for the wife I wouldn't have considered them - "I can still hear what your listening to". Thanks dear.

So, after a perplexing first impression compared to the LCD-2 I'm sure I've become accustomed (addicted) to their sound and maybe they've been burning in or both, and I can confidently say that these are fantastic headphones and my new reference for musicality. I'll be selling the LCD-2 rev 2, however I will be buying the Oppo PM-1 when I do. I just need an open headphone. My name is RELIC, and I have a head fi problem.

Thanks for listening.

 

I always find a LOT of listening to be more effective, in some ways, than trying to A/B things quickly, especially given that we're here for enjoyment. How much I could enjoy listening to an entire album is as important, if not more in many cases, than whether I can discern the type of horse hair used on the violinist's bow or not. :darthsmile: 


Edited by Currawong - 5/6/14 at 7:36pm
post #1232 of 2730
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The cups on the XC result in a drop in the mid-bass that makes them sound less "thick" than the LCD-X. The compromise for that is a little bit more distortion (harshness).

 

 

I don't think they require any at all. I have a vague suspicion that they get a bit better over time, but it could be an illusion.

 

 

I always find a LOT of listening to be more effective, in some ways, than trying to A/B things quickly, especially given that we're here for enjoyment. How much I could enjoy listening to an entire album is as important, if not more in many cases, than whether I can discern the type of horse hair used on the violinist's bow or not. :darthsmile: 

My own experience is that they sounded much better after a week of listening with the Schiit Gungnir/Mojo stack. Its like a singer exercising vocal chords after an extended layoff (I have no idea why I just said that). It gets better with extended play. I did notice that the mids were/are getting much better than before. 

 

Currawong, I did not read your review on the AK240 but is it sufficient to drive the XC ?

 

Thanks

post #1233 of 2730
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

My own experience is that they sounded much better after a week of listening with the Schiit Gungnir/Mojo stack. Its like a singer exercising vocal chords after an extended layoff (I have no idea why I just said that). It gets better with extended play. I did notice that the mids were/are getting much better than before. 

 

Currawong, I did not read your review on the AK240 but is it sufficient to drive the XC ?

 

Thanks

The AK 240 will drive the lCD XC easily n=both single ended or balanced with an adapter. The AK240 sound stellar with the lCD X and XC and Oppo an Alpha Dog phones.

post #1234 of 2730
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

My own experience is that they sounded much better after a week of listening with the Schiit Gungnir/Mojo stack. Its like a singer exercising vocal chords after an extended layoff (I have no idea why I just said that). It gets better with extended play. I did notice that the mids were/are getting much better than before.

 

Currawong, I did not read your review on the AK240 but is it sufficient to drive the XC ?

 

Thanks

Does the Gungnir pair well with the XC? How would you describe the sound?

post #1235 of 2730
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Does the Gungnir pair well with the XC? How would you describe the sound?

IMO, the Gungnir tends to pair very well with the Audez'e HPs. It is certainly not the last word in terms of detail retrieval but I hear enough for an immersive musical experience. The lower end extends well with a taut bass. The treble is very smooth to me. The XC has very good mids as well. 

post #1236 of 2730
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

IMO, the Gungnir tends to pair very well with the Audez'e HPs. It is certainly not the last word in terms of detail retrieval but I hear enough for an immersive musical experience. The lower end extends well with a taut bass. The treble is very smooth to me. The XC has very good mids as well.

Thanks, what about the Mjolnir? Would it be too harsh a pairing? If the MJ's sound sig is similar to the Lyr, then I won't really enjoy the pairing. I found the Lyr to be lacking although its rated power output would suggest otherwise...

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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post

Thanks, what about the Mjolnir? Would it be too harsh a pairing? If the MJ's sound sig is similar to the Lyr, then I won't really enjoy the pairing. I found the Lyr to be lacking although its rated power output would suggest otherwise...

May I ask what you found lacking with the Lyr? I haven't heard it, but was interested in the Lyr at one point.
post #1238 of 2730
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post
 

Thanks, what about the Mjolnir? Would it be too harsh a pairing? If the MJ's sound sig is similar to the Lyr, then I won't really enjoy the pairing. I found the Lyr to be lacking although its rated power output would suggest otherwise...

I love the Mojo so please note my bias. I have the Lyr and while I found it paired well with the 2.2, I don't use it at all these days (I have sold my 2.2). The Mjolnir is a little forward but I prefer that to a more laid-back amp (like my Burson Soloist). I tried my Audez'e HPs with the Zana Deux (tube amp) and found them to be slower compared to the Mjolnir.  I have decided to stick to SS amps for the Audez'e (and Fostex TH 900) and tube amps with the HD-800.

 

Hope this helps.

post #1239 of 2730
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

The AK 240 will drive the lCD XC easily n=both single ended or balanced with an adapter. The AK240 sound stellar with the lCD X and XC and Oppo an Alpha Dog phones.

Thank you Frank.

post #1240 of 2730
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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post


May I ask what you found lacking with the Lyr? I haven't heard it, but was interested in the Lyr at one point.

The sound wasn't as full bodied as expected from a 6W amp into a relatively sensitive and low impedance headphones. I mean, if the amp was muscular, it would have a tight fisted grip on the transducers and really control the bass and give it a full bodied sound. I don't hear this with the Lyr even with different tubes. Or maybe the Lyr is not fully broken in yet.

post #1241 of 2730
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

I love the Mojo so please note my bias. I have the Lyr and while I found it paired well with the 2.2, I don't use it at all these days (I have sold my 2.2). The Mjolnir is a little forward but I prefer that to a more laid-back amp (like my Burson Soloist). I tried my Audez'e HPs with the Zana Deux (tube amp) and found them to be slower compared to the Mjolnir.  I have decided to stick to SS amps for the Audez'e (and Fostex TH 900) and tube amps with the HD-800.

 

Hope this helps.

Thanks. it helps, definitely. I also agree a tube amp sounds great with the HD800 but i also believe an appropriate tube amp would also sound great with the XC considering it is not as dark sounding as the 2.2. I suppose the Mojo could be a better match than the Lyr considering it has higher power output rating. Unless it is voiced otherwise..

post #1242 of 2730
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post
 
Does the Gungnir pair well with the XC? How would you describe the sound?

Did not like it at all. Gave it almost 3 weeks, but it was just too harsh for my tastes.

post #1243 of 2730
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post
 

Thanks. it helps, definitely. I also agree a tube amp sounds great with the HD800 but i also believe an appropriate tube amp would also sound great with the XC considering it is not as dark sounding as the 2.2. I suppose the Mojo could be a better match than the Lyr considering it has higher power output rating. Unless it is voiced otherwise..

Geez...you know what? I realized I have not tried the XC with my Zana Deux.:rolleyes:. I will do that tomorrow and get back to you if I hear different to what I have mentioned previously. Thanks mate.

post #1244 of 2730
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Geez...you know what? I realized I have not tried the XC with my Zana Deux.:rolleyes:. I will do that tomorrow and get back to you if I hear different to what I have mentioned previously. Thanks mate.

LOL...i await your impressions! Can you try it with your Lyr as well? Maybe mine is not fully broken in so it sounds thinnish with the XC..

post #1245 of 2730
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post
 

LOL...i await your impressions! Can you try it with your Lyr as well? Maybe mine is not fully broken in so it sounds thinnish with the XC..

Sure.... How long have you used your XC (in terms of hours)?

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