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post #1156 of 1709
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I tried for a year to love the T5ps.  The are super comfortable, really easy to drive, and the sound quality and stage are both fantastic.  Unfortunately, the sounds was really 'thin' to my ears, and the highs were just too much.  The Ts and Ss on vocals were almost painful.  I got the Conductor specifically to try and darken them - it helped, but not enough.  Eventually I just gave up (about to sell them.)  

 

Didn't consider the TH900 mostly it looked like they didn't do a good job isolating.  Love to try them some day though. 

The T5ps are really classical music headphones, and for that they are amazing since you need a good quantity of treble in classical music to make it sing.  Since 99% of what I listen to is Classical, I love them...plus they are comfortable and light, which is great for portability (i.e., my go-to portable headphones).  A darker sounding portable headphone amp (like the Ray Samuels amps or ALO amp with the bass knob) is a must if you want to listen to anything other than classical.

post #1157 of 1709
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I've had my pair of LCD-XCs for about 2 months now, and I'm really enjoying them.  I'd been on a quest for the perfect closed setup for a while (trying T5ps, ED8s), and think I've finally found it!  Been meaning to do a more detailed write-up review, but I thought I'd share some quick notes.  My setup is:

Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet for playback (JRiver Media Center / Foobar2000) 
NAD M51 DAC
Questyle CMA800R Amp

I don't have any particularly fancy cables.  I'm using USB in, and balanced from dac to amp.  So far, I am really loving the sound.  I was previously using the XCs with a Burson Conductor which has plenty of power (4wpc) but wasn't giving me the sound stage and instrument separation. With this setup, sounds amazing!  The highs are definitely there, but I haven't had any problems with brightness (whereas the T5p would kill me with this.)  The sound is intimate and clear.  I've been enjoying all types of music, but anything with guitar or prominent vocals really sings.  I can also throw on some Metallica and the cans can really rock.  Bass has not been a problem.  They are absolutely heavy, but I've gotten used to them.  Isolation is good enough that I can listen in bed (at low volume admittedly) while my wife goes to bed which is saying something!  The soundstage isn't quite what the t5ps have (which is just insane) but it's quite good.  Overall, I'm really really happy with this setup.  Been searching for a while, and this is the first time I can remember being more excited to use my gear than upgrade it! 

Anyway, hope these notes are useful.  At some point, I hope to do a deeper review - but if you have questions let me know! 
Hi...I had similar recent quest and I did admire my xc alot, but if soundstage, instrument separation and bass quality are some of your priorities, you absolutely need to hear the fostex th900 before committing...I changed the xc for them....no regrets :-)
post #1158 of 1709
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Originally Posted by deafanddumb View Post


Hi...I had similar recent quest and I did admire my xc alot, but if soundstage, instrument separation and bass quality are some of your priorities, you absolutely need to hear the fostex th900 before committing...I changed the xc for them....no regrets :-)

How would you describe the differences in bass/mid-bass impact / slam between the XC and the TH900?

post #1159 of 1709
It's an interesting design question re whether you should make portable headphones that look awesome and necessarily stand out like the xc or if they should be relatively unremarkable looking like the t5p. The wood metal and leather on the xcs is really outstanding though.
post #1160 of 1709
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

The T5ps are really classical music headphones, and for that they are amazing since you need a good quantity of treble in classical music to make it sing.  Since 99% of what I listen to is Classical, I love them...plus they are comfortable and light, which is great for portability (i.e., my go-to portable headphones).  A darker sounding portable headphone amp (like the Ray Samuels amps or ALO amp with the bass knob) is a must if you want to listen to anything other than classical.

 

Yeah, I can imagine them being good for classical.  I don't listen to much classical myself.  I've definitely seen some websites recommending them for rock - like here: http://www.headfonia.com/full-size-headphone-recommendations/.  I did try pairing them with the Burson Conductor which is pretty dark, but it didn't solve the problem (did help.)  It's not just low end - the T5ps just sounded thin.  Somehow as clear and accurate as they were, music sounded empty - as in I never found myself tapping my foot or bobbing my head. A I don't have with the HD650s, Mr. Speaker's Mad Dogs, or my new LCD-XCs.  I just think they're not for me.  

 

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Originally Posted by deafanddumb View Post


Hi...I had similar recent quest and I did admire my xc alot, but if soundstage, instrument separation and bass quality are some of your priorities, you absolutely need to hear the fostex th900 before committing...I changed the xc for them....no regrets :-)

 

Already happily committed.  Maybe someday I can try them and see - but for a closed can I want isolation.  From what I've seen (from headphone.com charts) the TH900s block about as well as the old Denon D7000s (which makes sense, Fostex made both.)  I owned a pair of those and they might as well have been open.  And if I'm going to buy an open can - well then I have a lot more options!  Part of why I got the CMA800R is because it drives the XCs beautifully but will do the same with the HD650s (I have) and HD800s (I want.) 


Edited by dbalvo - 3/30/14 at 11:28pm
post #1161 of 1709
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Originally Posted by dbalvo View Post
 

 

Yeah, I can imagine them being good for classical.  I don't listen to much classical myself.  I've definitely seen some websites recommending them for rock - like here: http://www.headfonia.com/full-size-headphone-recommendations/.  I did try pairing them with the Burson Conductor which is pretty dark, but it didn't solve the problem (did help.)  It's not just low end - the T5ps just sounded thin.  Somehow as clear and accurate as they were, music sounded empty - as in I never found myself tapping my foot or bobbing my head. A I don't have with the HD650s, Mr. Speaker's Mad Dogs, or my new LCD-XCs.  I just think they're not for me.  

 

 

Already happily committed.  Maybe someday I can try them and see - but for a closed can I want isolation.  From what I've seen (from headphone.com charts) the TH900s block about as well as the old Denon D7000s (which makes sense, Fostex made both.)  I owned a pair of those and they might as well have been open.  And if I'm going to buy an open can - well then I have a lot more options!  Part of why I got the CMA800R is because it drives the XCs beautifully but will do the same with the HD650s (I have) and HD800s (I want.) 

 

I owned a pair of D7000s and upgraded the pleather pads to JMoney leather pads, so I found the isolation better than stock. Still no comparison with the XCs ...

post #1162 of 1709

Hello,

 

I've been interested in the XC for a while now and I was looking at them online and came across another Audeze website that offers different cups as opposed to just the Bubinga wood. I believe it is a website for testing products but I haven't found much about it. (The LCD-2 is also cheaper on the other site.)

 

Anyone know more about the two websites and the differences?

 

http://test.audeze.com/products/headphones/lcd-xc

 

http://www.audeze.com/products/headphones/lcd-xc

 

Thanks

post #1163 of 1709

As software engineer and web developer I would assume that test.audeze.com is not supposed to be used by public and serves as test ground for any changes made to website (server-side or client-side related) before they are released on live webpage. However, if this is the case (which most likely is), they didn't do a good job in securing their test environment - only developers/testers should have access to that, not whole public.

post #1164 of 1709
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I've been interested in the XC for a while now and I was looking at them online and came across another Audeze website that offers different cups as opposed to just the Bubinga wood.

 

I asked Audeze right before I ordered a pair from Audeze about 2 weeks ago, and this is what the Audeze CMO had to say:

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Mark Harper via email:
The option for different wood cups was nixed for the LCD-XC due to supply and demand constraints.

 

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Originally Posted by ottotron View Post
 

I believe it is a website for testing products but I haven't found much about it. (The LCD-2 is also cheaper on the other site.)

 

The price drops if you select bamboo cups. See this:

http://www.audeze.com/about-audeze/blog/lcd2-rosewood-price-increase

post #1165 of 1709
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Originally Posted by filuS View Post

As software engineer and web developer I would assume that test.audeze.com is not supposed to be used by public and serves as test ground for any changes made to website (server-side or client-side related) before they are released on live webpage. However, if this is the case (which most likely is), they didn't do a good job in securing their test environment - only developers/testers should have access to that, not whole public.

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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post

I asked Audeze right before I ordered a pair from Audeze about 2 weeks ago, and this is what the Audeze CMO had to say:


The price drops if you select bamboo cups. See this:
http://www.audeze.com/about-audeze/blog/lcd2-rosewood-price-increase

I see. Thank you for replying, very helpful info!
post #1166 of 1709

Loaner XC shipped out now.  Even though I really like the look, feel and sound of these headhpones-- even at the absurd price, I think the major flaw in it is just that the large planar diaphragm throws entirely too much sound energy outwards, so much that the wood cup can't contain it.  Even though these seal relatively well, they leak sound along the lines of a semi-open or Denon Dxxx series.  Unfortunately that defeats the purpose somehwat of the closed-back design.  I think for later iterations of the XC, Audeze would need to use more robust materials for behind the driver.  They could still use a wood veneer, but they'd need something like a solid plastic interior to help block out a lot of the outward-flowing sound energy.  That might mean more weight as well, but I seriously think Audeze should look into the possibilities of single-ended planar magnetics as well.

post #1167 of 1709
No complains yet from the missus on sound leakage so I think the sound proofing is not too shabb, considering I listen to my music loud. On my open back Fidelio x1 and grados I don't get past 2 tracks without the missus busting my balls. My missus latest complain is that I now spend Too much time lost in the xcs than talking to her! Ha!:
post #1168 of 1709

ottotron,

When migrating servers, we accidentally made our internal test server public. We use the test site to check new improvements before going live. It should be fixed now.

Initially we had multiple wood options for closedback cups, but managing inventory, especially with dealers proved to be very difficult. So we have switched to using one wood (bubinga) for now and have put the idea of multiple woods on the back burner for now.

-sankar@audeze

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post #1169 of 1709

I understand the problem, but will there ever be multiple wood options again? I mean if I'm paying $1,800 I would want some pretty wood colors. 

post #1170 of 1709
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Originally Posted by xsankar View Post
 

ottotron,

When migrating servers, we accidentally made our internal test server public. We use the test site to check new improvements before going live. It should be fixed now.

Initially we had multiple wood options for closedback cups, but managing inventory, especially with dealers proved to be very difficult. So we have switched to using one wood (bubinga) for now and have put the idea of multiple woods on the back burner for now.

-sankar@audeze

Yeah I don't remember how I got to that page but I was more rather than interested in the different woods.. I was planning on making my own wood cups or 3D printing some. I am also very glad that the X and XC have aluminum housings as opposed to the wood of the 2 and 3. Started saving up!

 

Thanks.

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