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post #1036 of 2642
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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post
 

OK, I listened to the XCs again a few hours later and they settled down a bit, but still forward. I then tried it straight into my AK240 and it actually sounded better. I may need to burn-in the headphone section of my Glow tube amp; I've only used it for speakers in my bedroom since I bought it new a year ago. I can't recall if the circuit is straight off the tap or independent. I still haven't tried my Luxman tube amp yet, but now I'm more hopeful.

 

When I first listened to the XCs earlier today, they reminded me of my experience with the AKG K701s which I bought when they were first released; I did not like these headphones at all even after 500 hours of burn-in time. Felt like an icepick stabbing my brain, figuratively speaking of course.

 

I live in the Santa Cruz mountains in northern CA, so I hike quite a bit. I took my new XCs with my 240 and went for a short hike—about 2.5 miles—just to see how they would work during this activity. The weight of the XCs didn't bother me at all and the clamping force kept the XCs snug on my noggin. If the upper mids warm some more, I may have my dream portable system.

 

Here's a couple pictures for you all ... my XCs and my fellow lambskin leathered, wood ESW-9As.

 

 

While I find the X and XCs sound great from portable players, they really sound their best on a good desktop amp IME.

post #1037 of 2642
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

While I find the X and XCs sound great from portable players, they really sound their best on a good desktop amp IME.

 

That's what I have the Luxman SQ-N100 for ... :wink_face:

post #1038 of 2642
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That's what I have the Luxman SQ-N100 for ... :wink_face:

Nice. What is your DAC?

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Nice. What is your DAC?

 

My Luxman is a 12 watt per channel, EL84 based integrated tube amp. It drives my Focal Electra 1008 Be speakers which use beryllium tweeters—highly resolving. The Luxman was given Six Moons Blue Moon award. Here's the review: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/luxman3/100.html.

 

The headphone output comes straight off the transformer taps, so it is about as short and clean a circuit as can be designed. The reviewer was highly complimentary about the headphone section, as were other reviewers who auditioned this amp.

 

I don't use a DAC since this system is primarily for my records; however, I am using the AK240 as a source with high rez DSD and PCM files and it sounds quite wonderful on this system.

 

Here's a picture although I no longer own the Wadia CD player since I sold it to fund the 240/XC purchase:

 

 

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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post
 

 

My Luxman is a 12 watt per channel, EL84 based integrated tube amp. It drives my Focal Electra 1008 Be speakers which use beryllium tweeters—highly resolving. The Luxman was given Six Moons Blue Moon award. Here's the review: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/luxman3/100.html.

 

The headphone output comes straight off the transformer taps, so it is about as short and clean a circuit as can be designed. The reviewer was highly complimentary about the headphone section, as were other reviewers who auditioned this amp.

 

I don't use a DAC since this system is primarily for my records; however, I am using the AK240 as a source with high rez DSD and PCM files and it sounds quite wonderful on this system.

 

Here's a picture although I no longer own the Wadia CD player since I sold it to fund the 240/XC purchase:

 

 

Have you thought about using a different source than your AK240? Sorry, but I'm definitely not hearing the brightness you're mentioning on my Bryston BDA-2 --> GS-X Mk2. 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Have you thought about using a different source than your AK240? Sorry, but I'm definitely not hearing the brightness you're mentioning on my Bryston BDA-2 --> GS-X Mk2. 

 

I believe the brightness I was alluding to was simply because the XCs were straight out of the box when I first listened to them. When I went hiking several hours later using the AK240 to drive them, the brightness had subsided quite a bit. It may be my Glow amp I was using on initial listening is not a good match or the burn-in process of several hours had changed the initial character.

 

I'll continue to report my findings as I get more time on the XCs, and of course, I will use them on my Luxman with my current CD player, my turntable, and my AK240 which I'm sure will reveal the true nature of the XCs.

 

I must add that my preference in tonality tends to lean towards the warmer side of neutral. For instance, my favorite IEMs that I've owned are the Sennheiser IE8s and the JVC HA-FX700s. My favorite previously owned full size headphones are the Denon D7000s. I love the sound of my ESW9As. Anything peaky in the upper mids can be troubling for me.

 

I hope this better explains my initial impressions ...

post #1042 of 2642
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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post
 

 

I believe the brightness I was alluding to was simply because the XCs were straight out of the box when I first listened to them. When I went hiking several hours later using the AK240 to drive them, the brightness had subsided quite a bit. It may be my Glow amp I was using on initial listening is not a good match or the burn-in process of several hours had changed the initial character.

 

I'll continue to report my findings as I get more time on the XCs, and of course, I will use them on my Luxman with my current CD player, my turntable, and my AK240 which I'm sure will reveal the true nature of the XCs.

 

I must add that my preference in tonality tends to lean towards the warmer side of neutral. For instance, my favorite IEMs that I've owned are the Sennheiser IE8s and the JVC HA-FX700s. My favorite previously owned full size headphones are the Denon D7000s. I love the sound of my ESW9As. Anything peaky in the upper mids can be troubling for me.

 

I hope this better explains my initial impressions ...

You're a brave man taking them hiking. :smile:

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You're a brave man taking them hiking. :smile:

 

I live in a secluded area, so I don't have to worry about security or frankly, seeing many people. :D

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I live in a secluded area, so I don't have to worry about security or frankly, seeing many people. biggrin.gif

Or actually most lay person had any idea how much these actually cost lol...

Price is Right on LCD3:
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I have about 33 hours of play time on my LCD-XCs and they are beginning to sound like I had hoped them too. The upper mid prominence I noticed out of the box has settled down significantly. My AK240 drives them to a plenty high level; the highest I can go is about 68 out of 75.

 

Tomorrow I plan to spend some time with the XCs hooked up to my Luxman tube amp to hear how good these really are. The final verdict isn't in just yet, but it's beginning to look like I have a winner ...

 

I'm waiting for a 2.5mm TRRS male connector so I can modify the balanced cable that came with the XCs. This will allow me to use the balanced output on the 240 which will give me more gain, and hopefully, even better sound.

post #1046 of 2642

LCD-XC 'phones turned up this afternoon. 

 

Mmm..... new car smell.

 

Initial impressions (see signature for source and amp):

 

Greater bass punch and presence than the T1s, but not quite as tight at this stage

Much better treble sparkle than the LCD 2.2 (the LCD 2s didn't work well with renaissance choral music)

Not as bright or harsh as T1s

Very versatile with respect to genres

Not the most comfortable headphones I have owned, but far from uncomfortable

Better isolating than W3000ANV and less leakage

Not neutral - (a touch on the warmer side, but this coming straight from T1s - More balanced than the LCD 2.2s remembered by these ears)

Great compliment to T1s

Possibly slightly more detailed than T1s, but not as fast (will this change with burn in?)

The best sound stage I have heard in a closed set of cans

post #1047 of 2642
@jwbrent, where did you get the 2.5mm trrs connector?
post #1048 of 2642
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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post
 

I have about 33 hours of play time on my LCD-XCs and they are beginning to sound like I had hoped them too. The upper mid prominence I noticed out of the box has settled down significantly. My AK240 drives them to a plenty high level; the highest I can go is about 68 out of 75.

 

Tomorrow I plan to spend some time with the XCs hooked up to my Luxman tube amp to hear how good these really are. The final verdict isn't in just yet, but it's beginning to look like I have a winner ...

 

I'm waiting for a 2.5mm TRRS male connector so I can modify the balanced cable that came with the XCs. This will allow me to use the balanced output on the 240 which will give me more gain, and hopefully, even better sound.

I'm experiencing the same thing.  The upper mids have become substantially less prominent the more time I spend with them, which makes me very happy.

post #1049 of 2642
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Originally Posted by mrmax View Post

@jwbrent, where did you get the 2.5mm trrs connector?

 

My dealer, Ted at teds headfood here on Head-Fi, just got in a bunch of high quality 2.5mm TRRS gold plated connectors. PM him to find out about them.


Edited by jwbrent - 3/20/14 at 11:15am
post #1050 of 2642
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

I'm experiencing the same thing.  The upper mids have become substantially less prominent the more time I spend with them, which makes me very happy.

 

Good to hear. I really want these to be keepers.

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