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post #1021 of 2642
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

I'm glad you said this...it triggered in me the realization that I had no idea what my Meier Classic was dumping into my Audezes. I know that I was blown away by how great the Classic sounded with the LCD-2s, and now the LCD-X, but Jan's site doesn't seem to have the output ratings at various impedance levels. So I sent him an email this morning and he told me that the Classic is putting out just under 2wpc into the 60ohm LCD-2s, and a little over 4wpc into the Xs. Now I know a little more about why Jan's amps make the Audezes sing like they do...I had no idea the Classic was this much of a powerhouse! 

So thanks for mentioning this...helped me learn a little more about an amp I've owned for the last 9 months! smily_headphones1.gif

Jan really ought to list those specs on his website. I looked at the Classic when I had my planars but was deterred by the idea that it might not have enough juice to drive them to their full potential. Turns out it is a very powerful amp after all.
post #1022 of 2642
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Jan really ought to list those specs on his website. I looked at the Classic when I had my planars but was deterred by the idea that it might not have enough juice to drive them to their full potential. Turns out it is a very powerful amp after all.

 

Exactly, I completely agree. I knew I loved his Corda Jazz, so to me the Classic was just getting more of a good thing, particuarly since I knew I'd want to jump into planars. But if I were just looking as a new customer, I'd want to know those specs. I was shocked to hear that it was putting out that much current...

post #1023 of 2642
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post
 

To use for my HD-600's, I decided to get a new headphone stand, however after trying my LCD-XC's on that stand, I preferred how they sat and looked more than the HD-600's.

So I'm now using that new stand for my LCD's, and the one I was using before is being used with my 600's.

My new stand is the Rooms Audio Line Type FS S and it's available in different finishes, but I liked Black the most.

 

Here are some photo's of the new stand with and without my LCD's on, and one with both my LCD's and 600's.

 

             AppleMark  AppleMark

 

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Hi David,

 

I've been reading your posts and admiring your handiwork. That is a nice looking stand. What's your final verdict on your new XC cables?

post #1024 of 2642
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Originally Posted by sbradley02 View Post
 

I would say that is a legitimate concern. Audeze recommends 1-4W and your AK240 only has .24W into 22 ohms (balanced)

If you want the Audeze' to perform at their best, you may want to consider a stack.

 

Well, I have two tube amps I can use the LCD-XCs with if indeed they don't work with my AK240. I'd rather not add an amp to the 240 since I justified the purchase by having an all in one device. Besides, I have my ESW9s to use with my 240 and they sound great together. I guess I can always go the cable route on the XCs if I want to warm up the sound ...

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Hi jwbrent,

I've found using the DHC Complemet 2 with my LCD-XC, ( amp being used is my GS-Xmk2 ) has given better detail and separation, but to my hearing the improvement is only slight, however I think the source I use ( K-01 ) might have something to do with that.
I haven't done it yet, but I think a better way to do a comparison between the LCD-XC's stock cable and the Complement 2, is to use my Pico Slim / iPod.

P.S. I've decided to start using the headphone stand I was with my LCD-XC, with my 009.
Edited by David1961 - 3/16/14 at 8:42am
post #1026 of 2642
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post

Hi jwbrent,

I've found using the DHC Complemet 2 with my LCD-XC, ( amp being used is my GS-Xmk2 ) has given better detail and separation, but to my hearing the improvement is only slight, however I think the source I use ( K-01 ) might have something to do with that.
I haven't done it yet, but I think a better way to do a comparison between the LCD-XC's stock cable and the Complement 2, is to use my Pico Slim / iPod.

P.S. I've decided to start using the headphone stand I was with my LCD-XC, with my 009.

 

Hi David,

 

I wish I lived in your neck of the woods so I can come over and hear your setup. I really would like to see the headband you made since it looks better than the stock version. I'm a major fit and finish guy, especially when it comes to my audio gear, so I'd be afraid to try and mod my XCs on my own since any blemish would leave me highly disappointed.

 

I'm assuming by the K-01 you mean the Esoteric. Beautiful product. I recently sold my Wadia 831—also beautifully made—so I could fund my AK240 and LCD-XC purchase. I did buy a TEAC Reference PD-501HR as a replacement CD player and it shares some of the same designs, abet at a simpler level, as your Esoteric. Frankly, for how affordable it is, it is very well made, plays DSD files, and sounds quite good.

 

But I just don't play CDs as much any more with the advent of high rez files, hence, my AK240 purchase. I hooked it up to my main system using a Luxman tube amp and Focal speakers with beryllium tweeters and the 240 sounded beautiful. Incidentally, it uses the same DAC as the TEAC.

 

Anyway, thank you for your reply.

post #1027 of 2642
Hi jwbrent,

I did a new headband to my 009's first, and the reason I did that was because I thought ( and alway's will ) the 009's with their original headband made them look ugly, almost as ugly as the Abyss headphones. ( it's only IMO the Abyss are extremely ugly headphones )
However, I did a new headband for my LCD-XC's because I found them very uncomfortable with their original headband.
I've said before, that I was taking a risk in doing the headband for my 009's because I was unsure whether it'd work, but because it does, I was very confident that doing the new headband for my LCD's would also work, which it does.
Even though my LCD-XC's are still quite heavy, I find them now to be very comfortable, the only problem, is because I had to alter the yoke arms, I can no longer put the original headband on unless I bought new yoke arms,but that's something I won't be doing.

Yes, it's an Esoteric, but when I got it, it was to listen to CD's only. I've since started using it's DAC and to my hearing there's no difference between listening to CD's and it's DAC.

I wrote posts with photo's on how I did the headband for both my 009 and LCD-XC, just so anyone that wanted to try doing the same with theirs could have a go.

Anyone that wants to have a go, those posts can be found on the Mods for SR-009 thread, and AUDEZE LCD-XC thread.
post #1028 of 2642
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post

Hi jwbrent,

I did a new headband to my 009's first, and the reason I did that was because I thought ( and alway's will ) the 009's with their original headband made them look ugly, almost as ugly as the Abyss headphones. ( it's only IMO the Abyss are extremely ugly headphones )
However, I did a new headband for my LCD-XC's because I found them very uncomfortable with their original headband.
I've said before, that I was taking a risk in doing the headband for my 009's because I was unsure whether it'd work, but because it does, I was very confident that doing the new headband for my LCD's would also work, which it does.
Even though my LCD-XC's are still quite heavy, I find them now to be very comfortable, the only problem, is because I had to alter the yoke arms, I can no longer put the original headband on unless I bought new yoke arms,but that's something I won't be doing.

Yes, it's an Esoteric, but when I got it, it was to listen to CD's only. I've since started using it's DAC and to my hearing there's no difference between listening to CD's and it's DAC.

I wrote posts with photo's on how I did the headband for both my 009 and LCD-XC, just so anyone that wanted to try doing the same with theirs could have a go.

Anyone that wants to have a go, those posts can be found on the Mods for SR-009 thread, and AUDEZE LCD-XC thread.

 

I agree on the aesthetics of the Abyss ... not my cup of tea at all!

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I just received my Purple Heart LCD-XCs today and they do look gorgeous, but after listening to them for 15 minutes using my AK240 as a source connected to my Glow tube amp in my bedroom, my ears are about to bleed—way too bright sounding with anemic bass. I'm going to let them cook for a 100 hours or so and I hope they warm up or this will be a brief acquaintance. Once I get some time on them, I'll try them on my main system with my Luxman tube amp.

 

I'll post pictures of its beauty later in the day; I have a paper to write for my philosophy class.

post #1030 of 2642
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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post
 

I just received my Purple Heart LCD-XCs today and they do look gorgeous, but after listening to them for 15 minutes using my AK240 as a source connected to my Glow tube amp in my bedroom, my ears are about to bleed—way too bright sounding with anemic bass. I'm going to let them cook for a 100 hours or so and I hope they warm up or this will be a brief acquaintance. Once I get some time on them, I'll try them on my main system with my Luxman tube amp.

 

I'll post pictures of its beauty later in the day; I have a paper to write for my philosophy class.

...and the brightness once again wreaks havoc!  I love the XCs, but I have to admit that they can be bright.


Edited by figaro69 - 3/17/14 at 3:14pm
post #1031 of 2642
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

...and the brightness once again wreaks havoc!  I love the XCs, but I have to admit that they can be bright.

 

You guys need DDA-1. I have not experienced what you guys describing here. Maybe we need to make inquires to Audeze about the state of the device. 

Apparently all the XC have there FR graphs saved by S/N, so that Audeze can later preload DSP profile based on your S/N. I think if they do that, plus the option to customise the DPS to liking, they will have a unique combo.  

post #1032 of 2642
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Originally Posted by zare View Post
 

 

You guys need DDA-1. I have not experienced what you guys describing here. Maybe we need to make inquires to Audeze about the state of the device. 

Apparently all the XC have there FR graphs saved by S/N, so that Audeze can later preload DSP profile based on your S/N. I think if they do that, plus the option to customise the DPS to liking, they will have a unique combo.  

I've never heard the XCs as bright...unless the recording is harsh that is. They are certainly not as bright as the TH-900s, HD800s or T1s. Maybe we should get together in the spring and have an all-Macedonian/Canadian mini-meet (I'd love to hear your BHSE too)?

post #1033 of 2642
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I've never heard the XCs as bright...unless the recording is harsh that is. They are certainly not as bright as the TH-900s, HD800s or T1s. Maybe we should get together in the spring and have an all-Macedonian/Canadian mini-meet (I'd love to hear your BHSE too)?

 

Definitely ! But you will have to bring gs-x-mk2 and some orthos just to spoil the all Stax party. ;)

BTW, I hope by that time I'll have ess based DAC with 3 different I/V ( LL1684, fully discrete class A and Opam2134) , so should be fun. 

post #1034 of 2642
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Originally Posted by zare View Post
 

 

Definitely ! But you will have to bring gs-x-mk2 and some orthos just to spoil the all Stax party. ;)

BTW, I hope by that time I'll have ess based DAC with 3 different I/V ( LL1684, fully discrete class A and Opam2134) , so should be fun. 

No problem. I'll bring them. :beerchug:

post #1035 of 2642

OK, I listened to the XCs again a few hours later and they settled down a bit, but still forward. I then tried it straight into my AK240 and it actually sounded better. I may need to burn-in the headphone section of my Glow tube amp; I've only used it for speakers in my bedroom since I bought it new a year ago. I can't recall if the circuit is straight off the tap or independent. I still haven't tried my Luxman tube amp yet, but now I'm more hopeful.

 

When I first listened to the XCs earlier today, they reminded me of my experience with the AKG K701s which I bought when it was first released; I did not like these headphones at all even after 500 hours of burn-in time. Felt like an icepick stabbing my brain, figuratively speaking of course.

 

I live in the Santa Cruz mountains in northern CA, so I hike quite a bit. I took my new XCs with my 240 and went for a short hike—about 2.5 miles—just to see how they would work during this activity. The weight of the XCs didn't bother me at all and the clamping force kept the XCs snug on my noggin. If the upper mids warm some more, I may have my dream portable system.

 

Here's a couple pictures for you all ... my XCs and my fellow lambskin leathered, wood ESW-9As.

 

 


Edited by jwbrent - 3/17/14 at 6:46pm
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