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Sennheiser HD 598 or AKG Q701 for rock music and occasional gaming/movies?

Poll Results: Sennheiser HD 598 or AKG Q701 for rock music and occasional gaming/movies?

 
  • 33% (2)
    Sennheiser HD 598
  • 66% (4)
    AKG Q701
6 Total Votes  
post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

I currently have a HiFiMeDIY Sabre USB DAC and a Fiio E11 amp, and I really don't want to upgrade either.  I listen to music on a laptop (mostly either WAV lossless from CDs or 320 kbps MP3s).  Portability is not an issue.  I will probably use whichever one I choose occasionally for gaming/watching movies, but listening to music is far more important.  Also keep in mind that the Q701 is a little more expensive.

 

Here is some of the music I listen to, arranged in tiers (no particular order within the tiers):

 

Tier 1 (easily the most important):

Pink Floyd

Guns N' Roses

Def Leppard

Avenged Sevenfold

 

Tier 2:

Led Zeppelin

Blue Oyster Cult

The Church

Radiohead

Metallica

Boston

Black Sabbath

Queen

R.E.M.

Rush

Elton John

Hair metal and power ballads in general

 

Tier 3:

U2

Beatles

Van Halen

The Clash

Dio

The Who

Bullet for My Valentine

Ozzy

Rainbow

Deep Purple

Buckethead

 

The rest of my music consists of mostly classic rock and classic metal, with some 90s rock and more modern rock, and a very small amount of rap.  If you have any other recommendations, I would be looking for something similar in price.  I am only looking for open back over ear headphones.  I already have the SRH840, so I am looking for something different (especially for Pink Floyd and other classic rock).

post #2 of 16

No vote here.  The answer truly depends on which sound signature you prefer between these two very good cans.

 

My personal choice is the Q701, but my mix of music is much less metallic and heavy than yours.  I suspect that you would prefer the Senn.

 

For movies the Q 701 (and its large sound stage) is a no brainer pick for me.

post #3 of 16

I have listened to the HD598, and I have the Q701. Keep in mind that I never really liked the HD598, in my opinion for the price of it the DT770 is a better choice so I could be biased.

 

I listened to many of the bands you mentioned there myself. While I can't really say the Q701 excelled for rock, it wouldn't disappoint. But considering you already have an SRH840 I'm guessing getting a Q701 would not get you something totally different.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

For movies the Q 701 (and its large sound stage) is a no brainer pick for me.

 

This. For Movies & Gaming, the soundstage of the Q701 is a no-brainer.

post #4 of 16

Check out the AKG K612 Pro, currently sells for around $160.

post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

Check out the AKG K612 Pro, currently sells for around $160.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd rather get something with more reviews.  Any other suggestions?

post #6 of 16
How about Mad Dogs?
post #7 of 16

Q701 is ok for rock. The soundstage is a little too big for heavier stuff, makes everything sound kind of distant. The bass doesn't have quite enough kick. For more acoustic fare though, I like them better. They do a good job with naturally reproducing midrange tones. 

post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 

Would the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium be a little more suitable for my musical tastes, while still providing a big soundstage?

post #9 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbenrfan99 View Post
 

Would the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium be a little more suitable for my musical tastes, while still providing a big soundstage?


Not as big of the AKG, but many folks with your musical preferences like them a great deal.

 

My own preference in the more neutral DT 880.  See:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_DT880

post #10 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbenrfan99 View Post
 

Would the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium be a little more suitable for my musical tastes, while still providing a big soundstage?

I've owned both the Q701 and the DT990 Pro. A couple thoughts:

The Q701 soundstage is bigger. If you know that you like a big soundstage, then take what I said earlier about the Q701 (that its soundstage is too big for metal/ hard rock) with a grain of salt. The Q701 wins in the soundstage department, no question. It's up to you to decide if this sounds good with the music you like. I'm talking more about death metal than stuff like Metallica though. The Q701 is definitely good at giving a very epic, large kind of sound, like you're in a huge stadium. 

The DT990 soundstage is also pretty big, but not as much as the Q701. The Q701 gives you the impression that everything is separated from you in space, like speakers in front of you. The DT990 sounds more like you are listening to something right next to you, but that it's something with a lot of space within it. If that makes any sense. 

The DT990 is more fun in the bass department. More impact and weight than the Q701, though I think the Q701's bass actually goes a bit deeper. But the Q701 bass is very controlled and more polite. 

I'd give the edge to Q701 in the midrange. Guitars, voices, etc. sound more natural and present. The midrange on the DT990 is more distant and a little dry. 

post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 


Not as big of the AKG, but many folks with your musical preferences like them a great deal.

 

My own preference in the more neutral DT 880.  See:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_DT880

How big is the soundstage of the "semi-open" DT 880?  Also, would the 250 ohm or the 32 ohm model be best given that I intend to use the Fiio E11 amp?

post #12 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbenrfan99 View Post
 

How big is the sound stage of the "semi-open" DT 880?  Also, would the 250 ohm or the 32 ohm model be best given that I intend to use the Fiio E11 amp?

Not a big difference between Pro and Premium, the Premium version has a slightly lighter grip.

Can't see a good reason for getting the 32-Ohm, over the 250-Ohm.

Might as well get the DT880 Pro 250-Ohm version, There is some B-stock for under $200.

 

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/435143.html?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleps&gclid=CLGwofjA77oCFaSDQgodpHEA7Q

 

http://www.proaudiostar.com/beyerdynamic-dt-880-pro-b-stock.html?gdftrk=gdfV21380_a_7c627_a_7c5539_a_7cBEY_d_DT880PRO_d_B&gclid=CJnP0OTA77oCFStBQgodUkEAMw

post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 

I ended up buying the DT 880 on ebay for a much better price than I could find anywhere else ($145).  Although they are used, they appear to be in excellent condition.  The reviews here and on Amazon, as well as the comments in this thread, led me to the (hopefully correct) conclusion that they would be better for me than the HD 598 and Q701, and most people find them to be extremely comfortable.  As a bonus, the listing was for the DT 880 Pro model, but the pictures definitely were of the more expensive DT 880 Premium model.  I realize they are basically the same, but the reduced clamp pressure of the Premium is a nice bonus.  Thanks to everyone who posted advice.

 

Edit: This was such a great purchase for me.  For just $5 more than I paid for the SRH840, I will finally be able to compare it with another quality pair of headphones.  If I don't like them, I can sell them on Amazon and possibly even gain money in the process.  It feels great to come into a topic with only 2 options and come out with a third, most likely better, option for even a little less money.


Edited by bigbenrfan99 - 11/18/13 at 7:04pm
post #14 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbenrfan99 View Post
 

I ended up buying the DT 880 on ebay for a much better price than I could find anywhere else ($145).  Although they are used, they appear to be in excellent condition.  The reviews here and on Amazon, as well as the comments in this thread, led me to the (hopefully correct) conclusion that they would be better for me than the HD 598 and Q701, and most people find them to be extremely comfortable.  As a bonus, the listing was for the DT 880 Pro model, but the pictures definitely were of the more expensive DT 880 Premium model.  I realize they are basically the same, but the reduced clamp pressure of the Premium is a nice bonus.  Thanks to everyone who posted advice.

 

Did you get the 600ohm model? Either way, you would not be disappointed by your choice, though the 600ohm model would surely be a bonus.

post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 

No, it was the 250 ohm model, at least according to the listing title.  This is even better for me than the 600 ohm, since I won't have to give my present its own present (a new amp).

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