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post #1 of 13
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Please Stop ‘Burning In’ Your Earphones

"OK, audiophiles: real talk. Earphone makers seem to be either too polite or scared to say anything. And the people in the industry who should know better are only actively encouraging a ritual. So let me say it for them: Earphone burn-in is a bunch of hokum." Clink link to read the rest of the story.

 

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/11/tnhyui-earphone-burn-in/

post #2 of 13

Some sort of "revelatory" rehash for ad copy ..  not had it obviously happen then... Either way this should be in the sound science section where all the other articles ( and no doubt heated arguments ) like this are.


Edited by nick n - 11/17/13 at 2:19pm
post #3 of 13

Even if burn in is a total myth, there's no way it's going to hurt. Telling people not to is audio-intellectual imperialism in the first degree. I don't see a single downside if someone wants to use test tones or pink noise or whatever. Personally, I leave my library playing on random for a couple days straight whenever I get a new piece of equipment (and I listen during the process -- no way I'm going to wait until it's "done")... but I don't really have an opinion on whether or not this helps. I just see 0 reason not to give it a shot. 



There are valid reasons go think that burn in happens for devices that use tubes or capacitors. For headphones, I do not know. But I really see no reason to care. Just listening normally will cause burn in over time, and trying to speed the process up with little rituals causes no harm.
Edited by manbear - 11/17/13 at 2:15pm
post #4 of 13
I agree for armature transducer the effect if any would not be detectable by human ears. The effect is more psychological. But if it makes us happier with our expensive purchases and enjoy the music better then why not lol
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

Even if burn in is a total myth, there's no way it's going to hurt. Telling people not to is audio-intellectual imperialism in the first degree. I don't see a single downside if someone wants to use test tones or pink noise or whatever. Personally, I leave my library playing on random for a couple days straight whenever I get a new piece of equipment (and I listen during the process -- no way I'm going to wait until it's "done")... but I don't really have an opinion on whether or not this helps. I just see 0 reason not to give it a shot. 



There are valid reasons go think that burn in happens for devices that use tubes or capacitors. For headphones, I do not know. But I really see no reason to care. Just listening normally will cause burn in over time, and trying to speed the process up with little rituals causes no harm.


There is no harm in doing a burn-in of headphones. Its just when one person says he doesn't like a headphone after a few hours listening and another will suggest letting the headphone burn-in is where there the question whether or not burn-in will help make it sound better or not...and there is very little evidence burn-in will help with a night and day difference. So it essentially is useless but the person suggesting so is giving a pretense that it will make a difference.

 

I have tried it myself and from my experience it was a complete waste of time (of course harmless still) especially when you still have that "I just got something new and awesome" feeling. I always suggest listening to the headphone instead of burn-in so your brain can adjust to its characteristic faster instead of doing something where there is a lack of evidence that it will change how you will hear your music later on.

post #6 of 13

Stupid article

 

I am burning in two pairs of new headphones right now.  Where did I put the lighter fluid?

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Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero View Post
 


There is no harm in doing a burn-in of headphones. Its just when one person says he doesn't like a headphone after a few hours listening and another will suggest letting the headphone burn-in is where there the question whether or not burn-in will help make it sound better or not...and there is very little evidence burn-in will help with a night and day difference. So it essentially is useless but the person suggesting so is giving a pretense that it will make a difference.


I see. I guess that's a case where burn in could cause harm, if it leads to someone keeping a headphone they don't like past the return period. IMO, burn in might help a little, but it's not going to change the basic sound of a headphone by any substantial amount. Getting used to the sound makes more of a difference. 

post #8 of 13
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Stupid article

 

I am burning in two pairs of new headphones right now.  Where did I put the lighter fluid?

 

Looks like you'll some matches, too. :)

post #9 of 13

I usually let my gear burn in before trying to really evaluate it. Granted I don't know that the sound is really changing that much if at all. My guess is what's really going on is i'm the one "burning in". I just think it takes time for me to adjust to different was speakers and headphones produce their representation of the music i listen to. Sometimes after a while of "burning in" I find that I don't care for the particular flavor the item has. That's my take on it anyways. Obviously it's completely un-scientific. 

post #10 of 13

So much snake oil in the audiophile world

post #11 of 13

In burn in, I believe.

 

I've had equipment that required burn in, and got better in time, and I'm sure is not my brain. Sometimes I go weeks of not using certain items, and when I go back to them, they sound just the way they did after the burn in period.

 

I'm sure if it was just my brain, it would "forget" that equipment and had to re-adjust. but that's not the case. Specially after listening to something completely different in between.

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by oronga View Post
 

So much snake oil in the audiophile world

Even so, this one is completely free to try :D

post #13 of 13

snake oil, it powers all the lamps in my house!

 

In my experience some stuff can benefit from burn in and some not so much.  And I don't need any scientific reason, I have ears.  There is lots we still do not understand about the world in case we have not noticed.

 

As an example of one persons experience with burn in:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682534/sony-mdr-7520/210#post_10007134

 

He hears a difference and in this case at least not due to his ears or head burning in  Oh, terrible image that. 

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