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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade myself to a high end IEMs, and would like to get your opinions. This would my first pair of IEMs of the highest quality and therefore it's important for me to make a wise choice that would fit my needs. I'm not fixed on getting custom or universal IEMs nor on any specific brand. I'll start with providing some information.

1. My current IEMs are UE's TF10s with a pure silver upgrade cable by Chris Himself (which is less than a week old as I just got it). In general I really love the TF10s and their sound signature. I've owned a pair of Sennheiser CX300 prior to having the TF10s, and I just couldn't stand them.
2. Details, separation and clarity are very important to me. I'm kinda new to the world of high end equipment and am unfamiliar with some of the terms commonly used in the discussions here smily_headphones1.gif. However, the properties of the TF10's sound signature enhanced, is pretty much what I'm looking for. Moreover, I like bass but it must be well controlled.
3. My current DAP (which I'll eventually upgrade as well) is the Cowon J3. I've been thinking to upgrade it to the AK120, but decided to go for an IEM upgrade first. So the J3 will stay a while longer.
4. I mostly listen to rock (starting from classical such as the Beatles and Queen up to alternative such as Pink Floyd, Archive and Radiohead, including Mr. Bungle, Tool, Mars Volta, Les Claypool, etc.). I also listen to some Gorillaz (alternative hip-hop) and grunge.
5. I intend to use the IEMs while riding a bicycle and training at the jim. I'll do so with caution of course but it is important for me to note that the use won't be static. I guess this is relevant to the question of custom vs universal.
6. I've read some reviews on the 1Plus2 and the TG334 from the universal angle (the 1Plus2 sound much better to me) and on the JH16 and merelin/miracle from the custom.

With all that said, my questions are the following:
1. Costum or universal and why?
2. Which specific kind and why?
3. It kinda bothers me to get high end IEMs just a week after upgrading the TF10s with the PS Chris Himself cable since it feels as if buying the cable turned out to be a waste. Any suggestions what should I do with it?

Thank you guys so much in advance for the help.

All the best
post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 
No advices..?
post #3 of 12
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Originally Posted by zg1984 View Post

No advices..?


Maybe because you should post this in the portable headphones and IEM's message board to be seen and read

post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
I've tried doing that, but someone told me this wasn't the right place for the thread and directed me here...
I'm lost :-).
post #5 of 12
As a TF10 owner I know that when I decide to upgrade I'll be going to JH product as it seems like the logical choice (JH being the original designer of the TF10). One thing I can suggest is that regardless of your final decision, DON'T get rid of your TF10's. I've read many, many accounts of people who do and later end up buying them AGAIN.wink.gif
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by Hijodelbrx View Post

As a TF10 owner I know that when I decide to upgrade I'll be going to JH product as it seems like the logical choice (JH being the original designer of the TF10). One thing I can suggest is that regardless of your final decision, DON'T get rid of your TF10's. I've read many, many accounts of people who do and later end up buying them AGAIN.wink.gif

 

Thanks for the answer/. Would you say that custom IEMs is the right way to go though considering I intend to use them while riding a bicycle and jim training?

 

How about the 1Plus2, any kind words on these babies? :)

 

By the way, I've read a lot of comment on how the TF10's sound sig is "fun" since it is V-shaped, while the 1Plus2's sound is much more analytical. Being relatively new at the hi-fi business I must admit I don't fully understand either of the terms. I'd love to get an explanation on that one.

 

Thanks again!


Edited by zg1984 - 11/17/13 at 12:48pm
post #7 of 12
Personally I wouldn't use an expensive high-end set of IEM's while bike riding or at the gym for a number of reasons. 1st, these things are expensive and the possibility of damaging them doing physical activity
post #8 of 12
....should be considered. More importantly, for me, is that the reason I buy quality gear is to enhance my musical experience. When I'm out and about it doesn't make sense to me to use my expensive toys due to a) ambient noise negates much of the quality sound I paid for and b) I'm not focusing on the music like I do when I'm listening at home. That said, there's tons of people that DO use their high end gear while doing their thing so.....
post #9 of 12
You could get some custom ear sleeves for your triple fi 10s. That should take them to another level. If you like them stay with them - after all you have just replaced the cables have you not? I got rid of my TF10s becuase I couldn't get the fit right. Sounds like you don't have that problem. The fit being right and microphonics not causing you an issue makes me reluctant to advise you to change them; but you can get them more comfortable and listen to them at lower levels with less interference from the outside than you currently have. The ear sleeves slip on and off so you don't have the restrictions of a custom IEM
post #10 of 12

I would avoid customs.  I've talked to folks and read about lots more that have had problems with getting the fit right.  Some companies will work with you and remold them but even then it's a hassle to ship your expensive IEMs back and forth.   Another reason I am not a fan is that if you decide to sell you'll likely have to take a much bigger loss due to the new users need to pay for reshells.

 

I also have a pair of TF10's. Not long ago these were among the top IEMs available outside customs, and many including myself consider them still to be some of the most enjoyable to listen to.  But if you are determined to explore the high(er) end of todays IEMs, I'd probably start looking at the Sure SE846 although I really don't like how Shure as well as UE have gone over to the new cable connection.  The standard 2 pin connector was solid, reliable and widely used by custom cable builders. "If it aint broke...." and all that. But if you know corporate mentality you know that anything that makes it possible to spend money on something that the company doesn't sell is "bad".  

post #11 of 12
Custom IEMs or Custom sleeves? In my end game thread there are no Universal IEM people who feel they have reached the pinnacle - only Custom IEM people. I have no Custom IEMs but I bet they are truly something given that some (not many) have chosen them over full sized HD800s T1s SR009s etc.
Universal IEMs have an advantage in that they are less hassle to buy and sell on. Having CIEMs would make it less desirable to chop and change IEMs to tweak the sound signature, I can see that may well be a good thing for the addiction........
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the responses guys. Actually I'm pretty sure I want to upgrade the IEMs themselves and not just the sleeves. As I said, I like the sound of the TF10s but I'm more than ready to take it to the next level. I even made my peace with the money I'll have to spend on that :etysmile:. As Hijodelbrx suggested, I'm leaning strongly towards the JH16 since from what I've read the handle well the kind of music I listen to as people are very satisfied with them in general. Any other alternatives on you minds (except the Shure that were already mentioned)?

I'm not sure yet but maybe I'll keep the TF10s and use them for the gym and the customs will be for a rather domestic use.

Another thing is regarding the CHris Himself cable. I've talked to Chris and he says that he can if I'll send him the cable he could change the connectors (the tips) so that the cable would the JH16. Should I do that or should I stick with the JH16 stock cable or maybe their upgraded silver cable? What would be a higher-end cable - a Chris Himself pure silver cable or the upgraded JH16 silver cable?

 

 

Edited by zg1984 - 1/20/14 at 12:16am
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