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post #496 of 831
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Originally Posted by K.T. View Post

The Cal! sounds like a very fine headphone.

I burned my s680s for another 20 hrs, so now about 60 hours on them. I didn't listen for too long, but they sound less congested than they did at 40 hours. Hoping they will improve more with a some further burn in.

So before I start researching the Cal!, is it even worth checking out if I already have the Audio Technica M50?

While the s680 is not a traditional sounding phone, I do find the sound very interesting and engaging!


I've never heard the M50, but some people say the CAL! has higher quality bass and a larger soundstage than the M50.

 

Note that the first CAL! has a street price of just $60, making it less than half the cost of the M50. So it's a way bigger bargain.

post #497 of 831

I really enjoy listening to the s680 but am a little intrigued by the cal.  Is it worth having both.  I'd be interested to try before buying do anywhere in the UK stock instoor to try

post #498 of 831
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I really enjoy listening to the s680 but am a little intrigued by the cal.  Is it worth having both.  I'd be interested to try before buying do anywhere in the UK stock instoor to try

 

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the CAL! is hard to find in physical stores. So you may not be able to try it before you buy it.

 

IMO the CAL! is a masterpiece that I can't see myself ever parting with even if I ever acquire flagship cans by HiFiMAN, Audeze, Sennheiser, etc. It has a unique sound signature that appeals even to the snobbiest of audiophiles. Even Tyll Hertsens, the biggest headphone geek on the planet who's heard hundreds (if not thousands) of 'phones in his life, places the CAL! in his all-time top five favourite dynamic cans alongside the Sennheiser HD 800, JH13FP, Shure SE535 and Sennheiser Momentum. I've come across people who've heard dozens of high-end cans whose very favourite can is the CAL! It's a $60 can that honestly sounds like it costs $300 or more. And to anyone that's skeptical due to it being by Creative, a company that makes all sorts of stuff (quite a bit of it crap): the 'phone isn't even manufactured by Creative; it's manufactured by Fostex, one of the most respected companies in the audio world. Creative just slaps their name on it and sells it way cheaper than Denon did (Denon sold it as the D1001).

 

The CAL! is hands down the best bang for your buck audio product I've ever bought. It's an even better bang for your buck than the KSC-75.

post #499 of 831
That's quite a recommendation. Will have a look online and see if I can pick some up at a decent price as they are not so cheap here probably £50 to £60
post #500 of 831

So, one more question about the Live!

 

V.1 price is more in line with the s680.

 

Are they superceded by the Live! 2? The second version is more expensive. About $127 on Amazon.

 

Is V.2 the one to get? Or does V.1 have it's own merits, aside from lower price?

post #501 of 831

I did a lot of research on both the S500 and CAL! a while back and opted for the S500s but it's difficult when you're not able to hear them for real. I'll look into them a bit more.

 

 

I think the apparent poor build quality was what ultimately put me off the CAL!.


Edited by AnarchistFish - 2/20/14 at 2:27pm
post #502 of 831
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Originally Posted by K.T. View Post
 

So, one more question about the Live!

 

V.1 price is more in line with the s680.

 

Are they superceded by the Live! 2? The second version is more expensive. About $127 on Amazon.

 

Is V.2 the one to get? Or does V.1 have it's own merits, aside from lower price?


I haven't heard the CAL! 2, but pretty much everyone agrees that it sounds more refined than the first CAL! But I think the biggest improvements are made in the build quality department—not the sound quality department. Judging from what I've read, the CAL! 2 likely would make better "beater" can than the first CAL! and comes with a thick, single-sided detachable cable (to be honest, the build quality of the first CAL! isn't all that bad. My main problem with it is with its cable which I feel is slightly too thin for such a high-quality 'phone. Apart from the cable, the build-quality of the 'phone itself seems fine and likely could take quite a beating).

 

I live in Canada and had to pay nearly $127 for the first CAL! (unfortunately, we Canadians often have to pay twice as much or more for electronics than Americans do) and still found it well worth it. So, if I wasn't so broke and didn't have other gear on my "to get" list, I'd have no regrets spending $127 on the CAL! 2. If you're in the US I'm sure you'll be able to find the CAL! 2 somewhere online for less than $127. Amazon tends to be the cheapest option for Americans, but eBay sometimes can be a bit cheaper. I believe a little while ago I found the CAL! 2 on eBay for under $100.

post #503 of 831
went out today looking for the CAL but none of the mainstream shops had them in stock let alone to try them so while in HMV took the chance to compare the the sennheisser momentum on ear and cant believe how much better the S680 sounds, they were priced at £169. Unreal
post #504 of 831

can anyone recommend a case for carrying / storage and also some different pads as the current make my ears sweat and i dont want it to cause any damage

post #505 of 831
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can anyone recommend a case for carrying / storage and also some different pads as the current make my ears sweat and i dont want it to cause any damage

I use this case:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hard-Carry-Headphones-Case-Bag-Storage-For-Beats-Pro-Headphones-Headset-/251308791727

 

It fits all portable phones.

 

As for the replacement pads, you can try HM5 pads for better comfort, but they affect sound negatively - the bass becomes looser.

post #506 of 831
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Differences between the 680 and the 660???

I have tryed the 660 but too much dark and too much mid...


660 is a garbage meant for sale outside of Japan for the Beats generation.

 

Why do you say that, Ben? I can't find any opinions on these 'phones apart from two Amazon reviews. One review on there is somewhat positive; the other, a poorly-written review, is negative.

 

I'm honestly a bit curious to see what they sound like. Both their looks and specs are similar to the 680's.


Edited by Aillas - 2/23/14 at 6:04am
post #507 of 831
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Originally Posted by Aillas View Post
 

 

Why do you say that, Ben? I can't find any opinions on these 'phones apart from two Amazon reviews. One review on there is somewhat positive; the other, a poorly-written review, is negative.

 

I'm honestly a bit curious to see what they sound like. Both their looks and specs are similar to the 680's.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-doppios-pg1197-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/16050#post_9937702

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

Well..As much as I blasted them drivers. I can't get over how wonky the sound is on the HA-S660. I think it is actually worse than the HA-S600. Which is very surprising to me. I don't know who can design this and listen to it thinking it has a good sound quality.. Don't know if it was just me but I can swear the bass got stronger with an overnight burn in. It is too boosted for having smaller closed in cups.

 

I don't mind big bass but I do when that is what your hearing on even bass light tunes.. Lol. The mids are easily overtaken. What mids there are. The sound is just terrible. With the Panas coming my way I am gonna call this one a loss and see if I can get a RMA. It is too bad as they they actually are built and look nicer than the older HA-S600.

 

Sound wise. These come dangerously close to the worst JVC headphones I have ever owned. The HA-S700. As dark as the HA-S660 sounds. Going off of memory at least the HA-S660 has treble. The HA-S700 had none to speak of.. The darkest dankiest sound I have ever heard..

 

At least we mostly get good stuff here on the discovery thread. Mostly. Lol.


Edited by BenF - 2/23/14 at 7:18am
post #508 of 831

Just one person's opinion, though. Even the most respected reviewers sometimes hate 'phones that the vast majority of the population likes. For example, Tyll Hertsens wasn't at all impressed by the original Mad Dog, a 'phone that pretty much all audiophiles are in love with.

 

Perhaps Dsnuts would also find the 680 too bassy if he heard it? (BTW, has anyone told Dsnuts about the 680? He's apparently a "JVC fan". I'm surprised that he doesn't have these listed in his profile, especially considering how he's a "JVC fan" and talked about the HA-S500 like it was the second coming of Christ).

post #509 of 831
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Originally Posted by Aillas View Post
 

Just one person's opinion, though. Even the most respected reviewers sometimes hate 'phones that the vast majority of the population likes. For example, Tyll Hertsens wasn't at all impressed by the original Mad Dog, a 'phone that pretty much all audiophiles are in love with.

 

Perhaps Dsnuts would also find the 680 too bassy if he heard it? (BTW, has anyone told Dsnuts about the 680? He's apparently a "JVC fan". I'm surprised that he doesn't have these listed in his profile, especially considering how he's a "JVC fan" and talked about the HA-S500 like it was the second coming of Christ).


I guess you'll have to buy S660 to really know how bad/good it is.

I wouldn't risk it though - all signs point to it being worse than S680. How much worse it is - is it really important?

post #510 of 831
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Originally Posted by Aillas View Post
 

Just one person's opinion, though. Even the most respected reviewers sometimes hate 'phones that the vast majority of the population likes. For example, Tyll Hertsens wasn't at all impressed by the original Mad Dog, a 'phone that pretty much all audiophiles are in love with.

 

Perhaps Dsnuts would also find the 680 too bassy if he heard it? (BTW, has anyone told Dsnuts about the 680? He's apparently a "JVC fan". I'm surprised that he doesn't have these listed in his profile, especially considering how he's a "JVC fan" and talked about the HA-S500 like it was the second coming of Christ).


I guess you'll have to buy S660 to really know how bad/good it is.

I wouldn't risk it though - all signs point to it being worse than S680. How much worse it is - is it really important?

 

Haha. I don't have many clams to blow, so even though they're just $30, I definitely won't be buying a pair just to see how they compare.

 

To be honest, I currently have my focus on speakers rather than 'phones anyway. I don't plan on buying new 'phones / 'phone gear for some time.


Edited by Aillas - 2/23/14 at 7:54pm
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