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post #361 of 995
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Originally Posted by Aillas View Post

I think I'll be selling or trading my 680s. I've burned them in plenty and have given them lots of listening time and have concluded that the sound signature just isn't to my liking. It's a pity, really, as I love the look and build-quality of these cans. Also, I must confess that them being Japan-exclusive and using carbon nanotube drivers increases their appeal. If only I could enjoy the way they sound!

Honestly, the extreme coloration of these cans makes me enjoy them even less than my KSC-75s, a can which cost me just $15! I was expecting these cans to be on the neutral side, but they're far from neutral. I can understand how these could appeal to people, but they're just not my thing. Though I can enjoy "fun" cans, I don't like my cans to be too "fun". To me the 680s are like a cup of coffee with one too many spoonfuls of sugar in it; the extra sweetness (warmth) is all too apparent and drives me nuts. I realize that lots of people like warm cans, but these are just too warm for my liking.

Anyway, I don't know if I should sell these, give them to my niece or trade them for something. I could use some IEMs, something I've never owned before. I wonder if I could get HiFiMAN RE-400s or VSonic IEMs in exchange for these . . .

The first mistake you made was expecting them to be neutral. Where on earth did you get that from? These phones will never sound neutral, it's just not their style.

The S500 required almost a thousand listening/burn-in hours before the sig would even out and stabilise. Expect the S680 to require the same or more.

I think you're just not giving them a chance to be honest.
Edited by Lifted Andreas - 1/22/14 at 4:13am
post #362 of 995
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Originally Posted by andreamang View Post

Guys, recommended these JVC?? I recently sold the HA-S500 because it was too uncomfortable and with a sound poorly defined and too "dark" ...

Currently I FiiO E10 and CAL ...

I listen to mostly trance / dance and other genres ...

I understand, however, that these JVC are not very comfortable ... the pads do not completely surround the ears ...

thanks

I'm a Trance DJ and the S680 sound fits that genre perfectly, well at least for me.

Don't compare S500 comfort with these, these are just completely in a different league. If they sit on the ears doesn't mean it will be uncomfortable for you, most users (including me) find them pretty comfy.
Edited by Lifted Andreas - 1/22/14 at 3:37am
post #363 of 995

Thanks for the reply.
I was looking for a headset up to 100 € the best of my CAL ... okay I recommended this JVC or another? Best audio quality over the whole frequency range ... help please

post #364 of 995
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Thanks for the reply.
I was looking for a headset up to 100 € the best of my CAL ... okay I recommended this JVC or another? Best audio quality over the whole frequency range ... help please

 

Hmm... if you're prepared to do a massive long burn-in before the sig comes through then go for the S680. There will still be a slight emphasis on the bass, but that is a good thing considering Trance/EDM requires good bass response.

 

Otherwise try the CAL first.

 

Btw, check this review of CAL!2:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RS5IYHI6TOWGI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00GFLV7V4&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

 

That alone would want me to reconsider.


Edited by Lifted Andreas - 1/22/14 at 3:49am
post #365 of 995

Screw it--I think I'll keep 'em. I think they actually may still be improving with burn-in. I had another listening session earlier where I listened to Led Zeppelin I and they made that album sound very fun and not the least bit fatiguing. The extreme warmth that was oh-so-present before didn't seem as present anymore and the sound signature seemed smoother than before.

 

Since I've already burned them in plenty with pink noise, from now on I'll burn them in with loud, bass-heavy music and see if they further improve.

post #366 of 995
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tried these in the laptop and they sound bad especially with videos, had to go back to the HD218s didnt really try with music but it was enough for me not to want too.

Was listening yesterday (flac on cowon j3) as per normal and thought something was not right but today, i dont know they just dont sound right i havent changed anything apart from lowering the volume down and cant really say what or why but something is not right its like they are muffled its not just one part but the complete sound. will try later at normal volume as its too late to have it on too high


Sometimes no matter which headphones I put on, they don't sound as good as I remember, usually in the morning or the evening.

Don't forget, we are listening with our brains, not the ears. Sometimes, the brain just isn't up to the task of deciphering high fidelity music.

post #367 of 995
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Screw it--I think I'll keep 'em. I think they actually may still be improving with burn-in. I had another listening session earlier where I listened to Led Zeppelin I and they made that album sound very fun and not the least bit fatiguing. The extreme warmth that was oh-so-present before didn't seem as present anymore and the sound signature seemed smoother than before.

 

Since I've already burned them in plenty with pink noise, from now on I'll burn them in with loud, bass-heavy music and see if they further improve.

 

Good on ya mate!

 

I'm pleased with your decision. Trust me, the hardcore CNT drivers need lots and lots of pounding to loosen up and produce the awesome sound that they are designed to produce.

 

You should try banging some of my Trance mixes through them, the pounding kicks and basslines always do a good burn-in for drivers. Remember to do it at a high volume level though.

 

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Sometimes no matter which headphones I put on, they don't sound as good as I remember, usually in the morning or the evening.

Don't forget, we are listening with our brains, not the ears. Sometimes, the brain just isn't up to the task of deciphering high fidelity music.

 

+1

 

The brain is a very complex organ to say the least, not to mention really advanced. So sometimes if you listen to other IEMs/HPs, when you go back to say the S680 they will sound different.

 

I'll give you an example, today I listened to the usual... my S680 and Zero Audio Carbo Tenore. Then I went to listen to my JVC FXT90 again and they just dont sound right to me... highs are too harsh and the mids seem non-existent at all. Even though I know this isn't true, my brain needs time to adjust to the sound again so until that happens I'm faced with this problem.

post #368 of 995
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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post
 

 

Hmm... if you're prepared to do a massive long burn-in before the sig comes through then go for the S680. There will still be a slight emphasis on the bass, but that is a good thing considering Trance/EDM requires good bass response.

 

Otherwise try the CAL first.

 

Btw, check this review of CAL!2:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RS5IYHI6TOWGI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00GFLV7V4&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

 

That alone would want me to reconsider.

First of all, thanks!
I do not know how reliable some comments ... unfortunately, if we read the reviews of the Beyerdynamic 770 we will find the person who speaks evil ... oh, well ...
Alternative?

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First of all, thanks!
I do not know how reliable some comments ... unfortunately, if we read the reviews of the Beyerdynamic 770 we will find the person who speaks evil ... oh, well ...
Alternative?

 

Click the thumbs up button mate if I've been helpful. Saves you typing. ;)

 

Hmm well thats true its always a gamble, no matter what other people say.

 

Alternative to CAL? Why don't you just go for the S680? You can always sell them as they are new and very sought after because they arent sold outside of Japan. So you could always bump the price up a bit more.

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It could also fit this JVC but do not know the comforts ...
Compared to my CAL is better or worse? Which headphone 100/200/300 € ▲ compares himself?

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It could also fit this JVC but do not know the comforts ...
Compared to my CAL is better or worse? Which headphone 100/200/300 € ▲ compares himself?

 

Not sure mate, never had CAL.

 

They are much more comfy than the Sony MDR-V55 which are on ear too.

 

@BenF - Surprised you havent put my initial impressions in the OP yet, did you miss them out mate? Also, I think its a good idea to link to my Mixcloud on there too. As my banging mixes are good for loosening up drivers.

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@BenF - Surprised you havent put my initial impressions in the OP yet, did you miss them out mate?

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Where are they?

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Where are they?

 

Somewhere like page 17, 18, 19.

post #374 of 995
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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post
 

 

Somewhere like page 17, 18, 19.


They are spread too thin over multiple posts - can you post your impressions now in a single post? And maybe a review?

post #375 of 995
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Originally Posted by andreamang View Post
 

It could also fit this JVC but do not know the comforts ...
Compared to my CAL is better or worse? Which headphone 100/200/300 € ▲ compares himself?


The CAL! is more comfortable since it has a much weaker clamping force and thicker, comfier pads. But the JVC probably won't be uncomfortable for you if you don't wear glasses.


Edited by Aillas - 1/22/14 at 7:30am
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