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post #91 of 123

Momentum sounded much better to my ears ... unfortunately my ears are a little to large for the Momentum :(

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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post

Momentum sounded much better to my ears ... unfortunately my ears are a little to large for the Momentum frown.gif
So are most peoples'.
post #93 of 123

It's a real shame I've had to admit defeat, as they sound awesome :(

post #94 of 123

Hey everybody, 

 

I went trying both headphones yesterday and I have to admit I was pretty disappointed by the P7... It doesn't press well your head and I felt that it was gonna fall, the isolation is terrible, and power is very, very limited with my iphone. Then, I tried the momentums. They are indeed a bit small for my hears but the confort is still very acceptable, I think they may have a better isolation and more power. 

 

About the sound: that was for me the biggest surprise. The P7 may be awesome with a few songs (it sounds incredible with instant crush of Daft Punk for example) but really, really bad with other songs. When I started lose yourself of Eminem, I had the feeling that Eminem had almost no voice, it was pretty bad. On the momentums, everything was fine. Not awesome, but never bad and generally very good. 

 

I don't know if I am very clear, it's difficult to explain this in English for me. What do you think guys?

post #95 of 123
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Originally Posted by patci32 View Post
 

Hey everybody, 

 

I went trying both headphones yesterday and I have to admit I was pretty disappointed by the P7... It doesn't press well your head and I felt that it was gonna fall, the isolation is terrible, and power is very, very limited with my iphone. Then, I tried the momentums. They are indeed a bit small for my hears but the confort is still very acceptable, I think they may have a better isolation and more power. 

 

About the sound: that was for me the biggest surprise. The P7 may be awesome with a few songs (it sounds incredible with instant crush of Daft Punk for example) but really, really bad with other songs. When I started lose yourself of Eminem, I had the feeling that Eminem had almost no voice, it was pretty bad. On the momentums, everything was fine. Not awesome, but never bad and generally very good. 

 

I don't know if I am very clear, it's difficult to explain this in English for me. What do you think guys?

ca son bizzare, peut etre que ceux que vous avez essaye etaient mauvais, le clamping force des miens est fort et solide et si ce n'est pas solide va affecter le son, je vous suggere d'aller les essayer dans un autre lieux si c'est possible.

post #96 of 123
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Originally Posted by Juandv9307 View Post
 

ca son bizzare, peut etre que ceux que vous avez essaye etaient mauvais, le clamping force des miens est fort et solide et si ce n'est pas solide va affecter le son, je vous suggere d'aller les essayer dans un autre lieux si c'est possible.

ca its bizzare, can be as you try were bad, the clamping strength of mine is strong and solid and if it is not solid will affect the sound, I suggest you go try another place if possible.

 

 

lol sorry just google translating it so others dont have to. anyways mine are tight somedays and lose other days i also bend them in and out but yea i have to agree that the P7s have a slipping problem for my head. I always have to adjust when i wear them if im standing and need to tilt my head forward i push them back a bit and if i sit down and recline on my chair i move the headband forward. I think is more of a problem for me because my frames on my glasses are quite thick as well. 

post #97 of 123
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Originally Posted by xriddler View Post
 

ca its bizzare, can be as you try were bad, the clamping strength of mine is strong and solid and if it is not solid will affect the sound, I suggest you go try another place if possible.

 

 

lol sorry just google translating it so others dont have to. anyways mine are tight somedays and lose other days i also bend them in and out but yea i have to agree that the P7s have a slipping problem for my head. I always have to adjust when i wear them if im standing and need to tilt my head forward i push them back a bit and if i sit down and recline on my chair i move the headband forward. I think is more of a problem for me because my frames on my glasses are quite thick as well. 

hahaha sorry just practicing my french

post #98 of 123

I jut bought the momentums :) They are great, although it is not totally comfortable for my right ear after a few minutes. I don't know why ahah, I imagine I'll get used to it.  

post #99 of 123
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Originally Posted by patci32 View Post
 

Hey everybody, 

 

I went trying both headphones yesterday and I have to admit I was pretty disappointed by the P7... It doesn't press well your head and I felt that it was gonna fall, the isolation is terrible, and power is very, very limited with my iphone. Then, I tried the momentums. They are indeed a bit small for my hears but the confort is still very acceptable, I think they may have a better isolation and more power. 

 

About the sound: that was for me the biggest surprise. The P7 may be awesome with a few songs (it sounds incredible with instant crush of Daft Punk for example) but really, really bad with other songs. When I started lose yourself of Eminem, I had the feeling that Eminem had almost no voice, it was pretty bad. On the momentums, everything was fine. Not awesome, but never bad and generally very good. 

 

I don't know if I am very clear, it's difficult to explain this in English for me. What do you think guys?

 

That's quite surprising. I absolutely don't like how hard the P7 presses against my head (same with the Momentus). You had a model that has very little clamp force? 

post #100 of 123

@ubs28: yes. 

post #101 of 123
The general consensus seems to be that the P7s are the better can in terms of comfort and Sq. However, if the Momentum were to be $200 vs $400 would you still go that route?
post #102 of 123

I agree that the P7s look very expensive. Unfortunately they are. They are not particularly comfortable but uncomfortable would be overstating it. I cannot enjoy the sound which, while it has changed with use, does not, in my view, compare with Momentums; Focal Spirit Pro or Thinksound ON1  all of which are cheaper. These three all have an organic musicality which the P7 lacks. 'Organic musicality' sounds like a candidate for Pseud's Corner but for me it is a function of a balanced frequency response, slightly on the warm side, with good transient response and a sense of acoustic. For me the P7 has an unattractive edge , booming bass, and overall incoherence. Unless you must have the looks, I would recommend steering clear of the P7s. Of the three I mention the Pros  are the best bargain on Amazon at present. (I suspect the sales are going to the Focal Spirit Classic which looks better but doesn't sound as good.) The Momentums are the best protected in their jumbo chocolate case. The others have useless bags.   

post #103 of 123
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Originally Posted by cyclingbobe View Post
 

For me the P7 has an unattractive edge , booming bass, and overall incoherence.

 

I tried P7s in the shop and they sounded great, got home and they did sound overblown in the bass. I then realised headband was too tight and the further pressed against my head it was, the more bass which overshadowed other frequencies. Loosening the band by gentle massage reduces bass significantly, same as having a small gap at bottom of ear. Momentums over-ears do not completely cover most ears like the larger seal of the P7.

 

Just wondering Cyc if that tight headband was the reason you found them unbalanced because I have to admit, if I had heard them with pads in as tight as when new, I wouldn't have purchased and that would have been a great shame. I now find them superb, dynamic and exciting.

post #104 of 123

I shall try adjusting the headband although I suspect they intend the cups to press tightly to give their idea of the correct bass.

These phones are an enigma to me and I feel I should enjoy them more than I do.

post #105 of 123
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Originally Posted by cyclingbobe View Post
 

I shall try adjusting the headband although I suspect they intend the cups to press tightly to give their idea of the correct bass.

These phones are an enigma to me and I feel I should enjoy them more than I do.

 

I only found it out by holding cups slightly away from ear and finding NO bass, then realising the opposite was true.  Another thread, someone eased the band, This doesn't happen with on-ears I'd  used the same way.

 

I had also been reading in a few reviews that the headband was considered too tight when bought and needed loosening (unless you have a very small head!).

Haven't read the large P7 thread at all yet, so don't know if anyone else found this.

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