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post #76 of 128
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

No it should NEVER have that kind of hiss.  However, what exactly is your source?  Have tried it across different platforms like PC or iPod?

I was trying it from my Nexus 4 and PC, my momentum sounds fine with both of them. Hiss my might be an exaggeration, but the bass feels overwhelming that it fades to the background and bloat the rest of the sound signature

post #77 of 128
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Originally Posted by xtroria View Post
 

I was trying it from my Nexus 4 and PC, my momentum sounds fine with both of them. Hiss my might be an exaggeration, but the bass feels overwhelming that it fades to the background and bloat the rest of the sound signature

Get an EQ app and lower the bass to test the M-100 to see if it is indeed over bass for you.

post #78 of 128
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

Get an EQ app and lower the bass to test the M-100 to see if it is indeed over bass for you.

Too late, I already returned it to amazon :D. I usually avoid any kind of EQ and bass / treble boost and let the DAC on the device and my music player to do the work

post #79 of 128
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Originally Posted by xtroria View Post
 

Too late, I already returned it to amazon :D. I usually avoid any kind of EQ and bass / treble boost and let the DAC on the device and my music player to do the work

It was just for testing.  But again, I think the M-80 or XS maybe more to your liking.

post #80 of 128

Tried both at a local shop today.   I found the P7 to be thick and more congested with recessed vocals.  Not entirely sure how that lines up with what other people are writing and it may be a case of not listening at home.  That being said, I do most of my listening with Heir 5.0's so maybe I'm used to a certain sound and the P7's just didn't align with it. 

post #81 of 128
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Originally Posted by Iron-Buddha View Post
 

Tried both at a local shop today.   I found the P7 to be thick and more congested with recessed vocals.  Not entirely sure how that lines up with what other people are writing and it may be a case of not listening at home.  That being said, I do most of my listening with Heir 5.0's so maybe I'm used to a certain sound and the P7's just didn't align with it. 

 

The Momentum is definitely (inarguably I dare say, under the right circumstances) the more thick and congested of the two. 

post #82 of 128
+1 to the P7.

Not that it matters much for the OP anymore - but it seems I'm one of those that like the B&W sound sig.

I actually really liked the momentums until I listened to the P7 smily_headphones1.gif. But I still have a hard time justifying the price difference when there are other great and cheaper options out there.

The PSB M4U haven't been mentioned yet - they are a great contender in that price range.
post #83 of 128
Maybe the terminology used isn't correct but this is what I heard (cut and pasted from inner fidelity). Vocals are a big deal for me and I like them prominent. That being said, I didn't have the luxury to have the P7 for any length of time for them to grow on me.

"The slightly withdrawn mid-range caused vocalists to take two or three steps backward into the mix and had me hearing them a bit hardened as the richness of their voices lessened. This became pretty obvious when I switched to more neutral sealed cans like the NAD VISO HP50, Sennheiser Momentum, or Focal Spirit Classic. However, when I listened to the P7 for extended periods of time I found myself adjusting to their "fun" sound nicely."
post #84 of 128

I have the hd25 adidas, v moda m80, amperior, and momentum over ear and got the p7 a few days ago, I love them, I am just too worried to blemish that nice leather, for on the go I'd rather take the momentums that have a very nice carrying case eventhough is very big. But for sq I really like how I can feel like layers, not everything at the same time (don't really know If I'm saying it correctly) I just feel everything has more detail, listening to led zeppelin for example, I can hear bonzo's bass drum pedal spring suqeaky noise; and more space aswell overall, the only thing I don't like is that the earpads are stiff compared to the momentum, too firm and clamping force is too tight but getting used to it. I love the momentum aswell, If their earpads were bigger I would say they are the best designed headphones for its minimalistic approach for the headband recovered in that nice Pittards leather.


Edited by Juandv9307 - 3/26/14 at 6:09pm
post #85 of 128

Get the P7 as the Momentum's are made for those who have smurf ears.

post #86 of 128

Hey guys, 

 

I just discovered this forum and it's nice, I'v learned a lot of things :) I recently decided to invest some money in nice headsets but I still don't know which ones I should have. After reading reviews, the two final best choices (I think) are the P7 and the Momentums. Still, I am not sure which one I wanna buy, so I thought I would explain you here what kind of user I am and maybe get some advices:

 

-I will be listening the music through my iphone 5S or macbook air.

-I will listen to very varied kind of music (including classical music).

-I have never invested a lot of money in headsets before, I'm not even sure I would hear the difference between different high-end headsets. I am not a musician. I would like to learn "how to listen" and understand those differences. 

 

So what would be your advice in my case? P7? Momentums? I also have another concern regarding something I've read about the P7. Some reviews say that MP3 don't sound great, even very bad with the P7. Is this true ? Should I have only FLAC files to enjoy the P7? Or is it ok to use Deezer with the P7?

 

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

post #87 of 128
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Originally Posted by patci32 View Post

 

-I have never invested a lot of money in headsets before, I'm not even sure I would hear the difference between different high-end headsets. I am not a musician. I would like to learn "how to listen" and understand those differences. 

 

So what would be your advice in my case? P7? Momentums? I also have another concern regarding something I've read about the P7. Some reviews say that MP3 don't sound great, even very bad with the P7. Is this true ? Should I have only FLAC files to enjoy the P7? Or is it ok to use Deezer with the P7?

 

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

 

I First had the same thought as you. I never really invested in good headphones but once you snap either of them on. You will definitely hear differences. I don't know where you read that Mp3s sound terrible with the P7 but if the Mp3 is ripped from youtube than yea it probably is bad quality but you probably can't tell the difference between a 320kpbs mp3 and FLAC file.  

post #88 of 128
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Originally Posted by patci32 View Post
 

Hey guys, 

 

I just discovered this forum and it's nice, I'v learned a lot of things :) I recently decided to invest some money in nice headsets but I still don't know which ones I should have. After reading reviews, the two final best choices (I think) are the P7 and the Momentums. Still, I am not sure which one I wanna buy, so I thought I would explain you here what kind of user I am and maybe get some advices:

 

-I will be listening the music through my iphone 5S or macbook air.

-I will listen to very varied kind of music (including classical music).

-I have never invested a lot of money in headsets before, I'm not even sure I would hear the difference between different high-end headsets. I am not a musician. I would like to learn "how to listen" and understand those differences. 

 

So what would be your advice in my case? P7? Momentums? I also have another concern regarding something I've read about the P7. Some reviews say that MP3 don't sound great, even very bad with the P7. Is this true ? Should I have only FLAC files to enjoy the P7? Or is it ok to use Deezer with the P7?

 

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

don't worry, you will never want to go back to use crappy cheap headphones, I have them both, it depends if you are very cautious with your gear and like to take care of them which is my case, I love the momentum because I feel they wont get scuffed as easily and they sound great, but you should try them first as the earcups are quite small and they wont fit everybody, try them not for just 5 mins, give them more time to see if you will get used to them, the p7 in the other hand, I prefer their sound, I really love them, but wouldn't think about using them on the go as the carrying pouch while being beautiful, it is soft and won't protect as much compared to the case of the momentum, also the leather on the p7 is a little bit more delicate, it feels kinda thinner and more soft, just more prone to get scuffs.

post #89 of 128

Hello guys, 

 

Thanks for your quick answers! I think I will go trying the headphones this weekend. 

For the mp3 concern: 

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/headphones/bowers-wilkins-p7-1200293/review 

http://www.qobuz.com/info/Hi-Fi/Bancs-d-essai/Test-casque-Bowers-Wilkins-P7174347

 

The last link is a French page (sorry I'm not a native English speaker) and it says "Forget your MP3s". 

 

Actually, I currently own a gaming headphone (Stealseries H7) which would not be considered as decent headphones for music I guess but I tried something. I have Meteora album (LP) in FLAC and I asked my girlfriend to start Numb and Breaking the Habit from Deezer (In MP3) and then from my computer (in FLAC), while my eyes were closed and I was trying to hear the difference. Even with the H7, I made the difference each time with no mistake.

 

But according to you guys, both P7 and Momentums will be OK with deezer ?

 

Thanks for your help!


Edited by patci32 - 3/27/14 at 6:57am
post #90 of 128

P7, as it trumps the Momentum in terms of confort, plus it sounds better in my option.

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