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Its been out for just a few months... not sure what it is "known" for. The dilemma I had was similar to this in that I had an Apple credit to use and they had the P7's, Momentums, and BO H6's.

It all comes down to personl taste, but based on the poster's options, I would say the P7's.

Is it's soundstage better then its competition? 

 

How'd you get the Apple credit?  Doesn't apple have a few more options: like the M500 and MOE.

post #17 of 128

Just read Tyll's review on the P7.  I was pretty sure he was going to put them on his WOF because I got the impression that they were U shaped, but Tyll gave the reasons why I wouldn't wan to buy the P7.  It costs too much, not too comfortable, and apparently has its sound focused on too much of a specific audience.   That being said, I still want to hear them!

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Is it's soundstage better then its competition? 

How'd you get the Apple credit?  Doesn't apple have a few more options: like the M500 and MOE.

I think they had a few options online, but I wanted to test out what they had in store. No M500's in store.

Apple was offering credits for iMac purchases during Black Friday. I had 300 to burn.
post #19 of 128
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Just read Tyll's review on the P7.  I was pretty sure he was going to put them on his WOF because I got the impression that they were U shaped, but Tyll gave the reasons why I wouldn't wan to buy the P7.  It costs too much, not too comfortable, and apparently has its sound focused on too much of a specific audience.   That being said, I still want to hear them!

Cost (value) is subjective, as he bashed the AK120 pretty bad too.  And I have been saying for a while that B&W sound sig. is not for everyone, and this is why there is a pretty clear line between fans and not.  However, I totally disagree on the comfort for the P7, as I am pretty sure it is better then both the P5 and the Sennheiser Momentum.

post #20 of 128

I'd guess the comfort would be an improvement.  Though the P5 is mad comfortable.

 

This whole hobby is subjective!  The only way we get anywhere is with the "The Needs of the many outweight the needs of the few" method.

post #21 of 128

The P7s ARE mad comfy, I fell asleep wearing them at my desk. The momentums do have fitting problems for some people and it was not for me even though they do sound pretty amazing when i tested them side by side with the P7s. When i got my P7s they were a bit boomy but since aging it a bit the sound has become phenomenal. Its not neutral but it does a great job regardless. It is really hard to comment on the P7s without owning them and breaking them in. They have a unique sound signature that's very enjoyable and the boominess does subside a bit with extended use. On the plus side they look fanfreakingtastic =D and if they have a white version later on I'm definitely getting white earpads for the current black P7s. 

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I guess slightly off-topic, but this is a very interesting thread that I am following: http://www.head-fi.org/t/670709/akg-new-headphone-k545

 

Comparison of the P7 vs. Momentum vs. HP50 vs the new AKG K545 by user dweaver. Of course, YMMV

 

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I liked the P7 because they look so nice, plus that large cavity is really roomy. But the K545 clearly outclassed it sound wise for me. But I do think some will prefer the muted upper midrange. But for jazz, live performances, acoustic, classic, older rock, hard rock and more genres than I can think off the top of my head the K545 will sound better in my opinion.
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Glad you liked the K545. Also if the P7 had it's own display, was it using it's own demo or were you able to connect your own portable and music for testing.

I liked the styling of both headphones and do think the P7 will fit more ears. I understand the K545 feeling flimsy but have had mine for over a month now with zero issues and they have been worn on several different sizes of heads at work plus have been shipped in my cloth lunch box with no issue, so think they are pretty sturdy.

I completely agree with your assessment on value. The P7 while nice just didn't sound or feel like it was worth the extra $150.

I actually think you will find as you use the K545 if you buy them that they manage subtle music amazingly well and that they scale exceptionally well with higher end gear.
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You are correct but having heard the HP50 and the K545 I really do prefer both of them over the Momentum from a sound perspective. The HP50's fit was close enough to the Momentum that I am concerned about it the same way I was about the Momentum though, just not as much, as I did find it not quite as sore on my ears. The best way to describe it is the Momentum pretty much sat on the edge of my ears while the HP50 is over my ears but the edge of my ears was touching it.
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The K545 soundstage is very close to the K550 so is much bigger than the Momentum. In regards to dynamics I think it depends on what makes music sound dynamic to you. For me praat is part of the equation along with solid deep bass, slightly elevated mids and clear detailed treble. For me the K545 embodies all of that. The Momentum on the other hand placed to much emphasis on the mid-bass and lower to middle midrange and not enough on the treble. Causing it be to warm and a bit shouty. The K545 on the other hand is a bit brighter like the K550 but without the one peak most people disliked.
 

:normal_smile : you can read his full review of the akg k545 here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/688329/akg-k545-review-k550-s-little-brother-isn-t-so-little

post #23 of 128

I've got all my money as Amazon credit and Amazon has decided to boost the K545's price so... yeah.

post #24 of 128
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I've got all my money as Amazon credit and Amazon has decided to boost the K545's price so... yeah.

doesn't amazon price match tho? you should inquire into that :)

post #25 of 128

Whoa wait what?  Ooo I'll look into that right now!

post #26 of 128

No.. It only works for TV's and Cellphones.

post #27 of 128

Besides, amazon.com doesn't even have them, just some from Japan.

post #28 of 128
If you do find a pair on Apple, they will price match certain retailers, but only up to 10%. My P7's were 360.
post #29 of 128
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If you do find a pair on Apple, they will price match certain retailers, but only up to 10%. My P7's were 360.

 

 

Apple store price match now?  Which ones?

post #30 of 128
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If you do find a pair on Apple, they will price match certain retailers, but only up to 10%. My P7's were 360.
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