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What does my laptop need to pump out good sound?

post #1 of 30
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What does my laptop need to pump out good sound?

 

It's all I have access too as I can't pay for studio time and it's the only computer I have in my apartment.

 

I have been reading around and a lot of people are saying it's pointless to buy a high end pair of headphones due to the fact that a laptop will not be able to fully support it sound wise.

 

People are talking about USB sound cards but I have been looking at a company called M-AUDIO and these look interesting:

 

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MTrackQUADNew.html

 

What benefit would this provide to my laptop with a pair of headphones, if any? Also, what's the deal with USB sound cards?

post #2 of 30

The number 1 suggestion for solving computer audio problems is ineed a USB soundcard. Basically what it does is it takes the digital signal from your computer, and instead of running it through its own D/A converter and amplifier (which is usually pretty low quality), it runs it through USB to your external D/A converter and amplifier. There is honestly quite a big difference between computer audio and a decent external sound card.

 

Buying good headphones while using the computer audio is indeed a waste. A laptop has a lot of functions it needs to cover and audio is not on a high priority list. The component of a laptop that is dedicated to the headphone jack is often no bigger than maybe half a finger worth of area. The amplifier is also not very powerful and cannot power more power hungry headphones.

 

Are you looking to listen to music or are you trying to mix and master your own recordings?

post #3 of 30
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Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post
 

The number 1 suggestion for solving computer audio problems is ineed a USB soundcard. Basically what it does is it takes the digital signal from your computer, and instead of running it through its own D/A converter and amplifier (which is usually pretty low quality), it runs it through USB to your external D/A converter and amplifier. There is honestly quite a big difference between computer audio and a decent external sound card.

 

Buying good headphones while using the computer audio is indeed a waste. A laptop has a lot of functions it needs to cover and audio is not on a high priority list. The component of a laptop that is dedicated to the headphone jack is often no bigger than maybe half a finger worth of area. The amplifier is also not very powerful and cannot power more power hungry headphones.

 

Are you looking to listen to music or are you trying to mix and master your own recordings?

 

Mixing and mastering. I'm a producer and I use FL Studio.

 

Thank you so much for respondng though.

 

I was thinking of getting a pair of V-MODA Crossfade's with probably a Fiio e10 amplifier and definitely some type of USB sound card. Do you think that will be enough or is it overkill?

post #4 of 30

You'd only need the fiio e10 as it is both a dac and an amp. I don't think you should get the v-moda, as it isn't made for mixing and mastering. Maybe the KRK KNS8400.

Budget?

post #5 of 30
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You'd only need the fiio e10 as it is both a dac and an amp. I don't think you should get the v-moda, as it isn't made for mixing and mastering. Maybe the KRK KNS8400.

Budget?

 

What do you mean by both a dac and an amp? It has its own soundcard? Excuse my noobness lol. Why shouldn't I get both?

 

And also I've been at a war with myself deciding the V-MODA's or a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50's.

 

The catch though is that I am only producing hip hop music. A little bit of electro too here and there but it is all new school stuff and very heavy bass oriented. I know the V-MODA's aren't so balanced but from what I've been reading about them they seem to be a very good headphone. I feel like me enjoying the experience more is more important than having a balanced headphone. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I've decided so far.

post #6 of 30

^Priorities.. There'll be better music strictly for mixing and so on.. I have no personal experience, though.

 

The e10 is a 'soundcard'. Usb in, sound out.

post #7 of 30
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

^Priorities.. There'll be better music strictly for mixing and so on.. I have no personal experience, though.

 

The e10 is a 'soundcard'. Usb in, sound out.

 

I looked it up too that's so sick hopefully I can pick up the e17 instead since it's not that much more expensive.

post #8 of 30

The e17 is not better than the e10. It is portable, though, and runs on usb.

post #9 of 30
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The e17 is not better than the e10. It is portable, though, and runs on usb.

 

Now I'm confused. Is the e10 the best amplifier by Fiio?

post #10 of 30

The best amplifiers are the e9 or e12. The best DAC is debatable. If you don't need the portability of the e17, the e10 would suit you best

post #11 of 30
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The best amplifiers are the e9 or e12. The best DAC is debatable. If you don't need the portability of the e17, the e10 would suit you best

 

All these come with DAC's right? Does every Fiio have a DAC?

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Originally Posted by thisissomebs View Post
 

 

All these come with DAC's right? Does every Fiio have a DAC?


Nope! look in fiio website, you will know! E17 can be used as a portable amplifier along with Ipod/mobile phone. But E10 can not used be as portable amp.

 

For using in laptop/computer, it is better to bypass the on board soundcard by using a dedicated dac/amp. The dac/amp would improve the sound quality.

for studio monitoring, look for K240 headphones.


Edited by rubinstein - 11/12/13 at 3:15am
post #13 of 30
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Nope! look in fiio website, you will know! E17 can be used as a portable amplifier along with Ipod/mobile phone. But E10 can not used be as portable amp.

 

For using in laptop/computer, it is better to bypass the on board soundcard by using a dedicated dac/amp. The dac/amp would improve the sound quality.

for studio monitoring, look for K240 headphones.

 

You guys always never say enough lol. What is an example of a good dedicated dac/amp?

post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by thisissomebs View Post
 

 

You guys always never say enough lol. What is an example of a good dedicated dac/amp?

what is your budget? Does the dac/amp have to be portable?


Edited by rubinstein - 11/12/13 at 4:51am
post #15 of 30

im confused now. Arent you looking for something to mix and master with?

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