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post #976 of 1331
thanks gary for the inputs on the EMO DC-1..I have been contemplating on the DC-1 for a while now..what i like is the additional analog input aside from the array of digital inputs and the form factor..your reviews and the others I have read plus the emo sale that is ongoing sealed the deal for me..as I am overseas I cannot buy and test DACs and I am always dependent on reviews..I guess the headphone is not matched with hard to drive planars..but I think will do good for grados..anyway I mostly listen to speakers now. biggrin.gif

also cannot afford DSDs maybe after 5 years when it is mainstream already hehe

goodluck on your pick!
post #977 of 1331
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Originally Posted by d1sturb3d View Post

thanks gary for the inputs on the EMO DC-1..I have been contemplating on the DC-1 for a while now..what i like is the additional analog input aside from the array of digital inputs and the form factor..your reviews and the others I have read plus the emo sale that is ongoing sealed the deal for me..as I am overseas I cannot buy and test DACs and I am always dependent on reviews..I guess the headphone is not matched with hard to drive planars..but I think will do good for grados..anyway I mostly listen to speakers now. biggrin.gif

also cannot afford DSDs maybe after 5 years when it is mainstream already hehe

goodluck on your pick!

 

I'm still on the fence about the DC-1 at the moment, I'm waiting for a few more reviews before I commit to any purchases.  If you're looking for a relatively cheap DSD solution though, you might want to look into the Schiit Loki.  

 

http://schiit.com/products/loki

post #978 of 1331
^ thanks KecthupNinja..there is a cheap DSD solution but the DSD tracks are not..check the DC-1 thread at the emotiva forum..there are lots of user reviews over there..not all are happy but most of them are..if you are in the US you can try it out for 30 days..I am jealous of the guys who are stateside..business there are very consumer oriented..

goodluck on whatever you decide..hope you will get the right one..
post #979 of 1331

DSD tracks aren't cheap, unless you're willing to pirate them... but they're worth it*.

 

 

* you pick.

post #980 of 1331
Don't believe DSD files cost anymore than 24/192 PCM. One of my favorites is blue coast records. Some of the best piano recordings I have heard to date - DSD or otherwise.
post #981 of 1331
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Also interesting to note that the website, AudioStream.com, did not award either the Metrum or Emo DACs its "Greatest Bits" award...

 

http://www.audiostream.com/category/dac-reviews?page=1

Please note that the Emo in that review is the older XDA-2 model, not the DC-1 that's the subject of Gary's review........

post #982 of 1331
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Originally Posted by KetchupNinja View Post
 

 

I'm still on the fence about the DC-1 at the moment, I'm waiting for a few more reviews before I commit to any purchases.  If you're looking for a relatively cheap DSD solution though, you might want to look into the Schiit Loki.  

 

http://schiit.com/products/loki

FWIW, on my HD-600's, the Emo HP amp sounds  fine - driven by BUF-634 opamps.....

post #983 of 1331
I find the conclusions Gary in MD made quite interesting, particularly compared to the ones from purrin's thread over at http://www.head-fi.org/t/693798/ranking-of-17-dacs-and-dac-configurations

I hope we get a similar kind of summary like purrin did, this is getting to be quite a long thread biggrin.gif

I did a little shootout of my own with what I could source and ended with a Benchmark DAC2, but I never got around to doing a proper thread about it like this, great effort Gary! biggrin.gif
post #984 of 1331

So it looks like the Yulong DA8 wins? Over the Metrum?

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I guess my question is, what kind of sound does the DA8 offer? Overly analytical? Too detailed? Or slightly warm?

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Originally Posted by schneller View Post
 

I guess my question is, what kind of sound does the DA8 offer? Overly analytical? Too detailed? Or slightly warm?


By Gary's admission, the Yulong sounds the same as the other good DACs in the comparison. That is to say, neutral, detailed, and controlled--without harshness. The discussion lately has been all about DSD, and not about the core matched comparisons.

post #987 of 1331
Gary,

I'm thinking that, even for those not interested in DSD files, you would probably recommend the Yulong DA8 - for its ability to be configured to sound either like one of the "indistinguishables" -OR- like the Metrum Octave II.

Is that an accurate assumption?

Mike
post #988 of 1331
UPS will deliver my Emo today. $500 is a push for me, but I will feel at peace with this DAC, not lusting after something better(more expensive), because of this shoot out. I have my Crack amp, so never intended to use this feature of the Emo anyway. However........I might start lusting after something cheaper, so I'm going to order something in the $250 range to do a comparison during my 30 day window. Can anyone suggest a good choice?
post #989 of 1331
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Yeah, that is crazy. I bought that DAC when it was newly released and compared it directly to the Yulong D18. I kept the Teac for about 2 weeks until I happily returned it...

yeah, the Teac didn't last long in my rig either. It's interesting, though, it gets a lot of positive reviews everywhere but here!

 

However, TweekGeek does offer one that is modded.  The mod adds about $800 to the retail price of the DAC ($1600 total) and I auditioned it.  I was already set on something else, but it does improve it a lot, but, as with most mods, its hard to get more than the going rate for equipment if you decide to sell it down the line, so basically you could end up eating the price of the mod if you sell it. TG is good about letting people audition stuff with no restocking fee, so no risk if people are interested in this modded version.

 

Here's the mod:

 

"TweekGeek raises the bar even higher with our UD-501 mod package. We add Belleson super regulators to the power supply to reduce voltage ripple and improve recovery time. This really smooths out leading edge transients making them more musical and less edgy. We then upgrade the opamps used in the output section with BurrBrown (Texas Instruments) OPA2107's for more resolution and smoother sound."
 
while it's an old thread, Head-fi'ers like the sound of the OPA2107s http://www.head-fi.org/t/187020/opa2107-wow
post #990 of 1331
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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post

I tried back tracking a bit to find the comparisons but couldn't.  Could i get a link to the page please?



Also, i've been considering upgrading my peachtree audio DAC*IT but the guys over at avsforums.com in particular the prestigious ARNYK say that DAC's are the easiest device in audio gear to make perfect and basically if done right  they will sound the same.  He says this is possible at a very cheap price.  What are the findings here?


 



What does he have to support this opnion?
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