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post #406 of 1331

You can get the PWD II at around that price all year round. 

post #407 of 1331

yeah I was gonna say, getting them for under 2500 is pretty easy, even brand new...

post #408 of 1331
Thread Starter 

Hmmm is it something about that model that causes folks to sell it so much below its "list" price?

post #409 of 1331

There's nothing wrong with it. It's a nice DAC but the street price is much lower than the MSRP which can be said for many products. If I didn't get my Buffalo at a good price I probably would have ended up with the PWD II.

post #410 of 1331

I say throw it in, but let it be a known caveat. Nothing wrong with being an opportunist :)

post #411 of 1331
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

There's nothing wrong with it. It's a nice DAC but the street price is much lower than the MSRP which can be said for many products. If I didn't get my Buffalo at a good price I probably would have ended up with the PWD II.
what are those many products? Besides the PWD (and possibly the first watt amps), I don't see many products that are half the MSRP.
post #412 of 1331
There are a lot of them out there. Plus the list prices are always crazy high after they've been out as long as the PWD has. The Hilo list is $2495 and you can buy them new for $1850. Those list prices are new release (read gotta have the newest soonest). Add to that Darryl is generous re-selling products he brings through the audio den.
post #413 of 1331
Thread Starter 

Trust me, I sure wish I had seen all of the DACs I just ordered at that kind of discount.  The only ones I got discounted were the Emo Stealth, which was on holiday sale, the Yulong because Shenzen discounted it on Amazon and Grant matched them, and one other that I got 10% off  of (not sure if I can say it in the open... but if that dealer in America's heartland is reading this thread and wants me to mention it, I will, via PMs for anybody interested).   Otherwise, when you are dealing with only a couple of retailers in the country, it is tough to negotiate on price -- you want their product, you have to buy it from them, and you pay their price. 

post #414 of 1331

I'd say include it in the test.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see where this double priced DAC stand in the test and comparisons?

I'd like to see a much much cheaper DAC ($499 Emotiva Stealth DC-1?) comes out on top of this thing.

I know I'm dreaming, but you get the idea.


Edited by chanwhk - 12/12/13 at 12:12am
post #415 of 1331
Man, if I hadn't already shipping it all over the country...I would totally lend you my M7. Well that and I dont own any other dacs to use while it was gone :/
post #416 of 1331

I personally would love to see the perfectwave in here.  As a owner of the a concero.  I'd love to see how it would stack up.

post #417 of 1331
Originally Posted by mhamel View Post

 

I picked up a Dangerous Source this week, initial impressions are that my Gungnir will most likely be up for sale soon.

Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

I have one Dangerous Source on its way to my work now. Along with the Focal Spirit pro.

 

It's for work use but I'm quite sure they will allow me to take it home for trial.

 

Nice to see the initial report(s) are positive.. any word on how the headphone amplifier section performs (along with the DAC).. I don't want to take this thread OT, so if you guys are posting impressions in an another thread, let is know.

post #418 of 1331
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post
 

 

Nice to see the initial report(s) are positive.. any word on how the headphone amplifier section performs (along with the DAC).. I don't want to take this thread OT, so if you guys are posting impressions in an another thread, let is know.

 

 

I haven't posted any impressions anywhere else, I have only had it in-hand a couple of days now.  

 

The internal headphone amp is very good.   The best way I can describe the sound of both the DAC and amp sections of the Source comes from a review I'd read on it prior to buying.   "The Dangerous Music converters are designed to sound transparent but not clinical, musical but uncolored."   IMO, that hits the nail on the head.   I've been flipping back and forth between it and my Gungnir and keep finding myself reluctant to switch to the Gungnir when listening to the DS and eager to switch back to the DS when listening to the Gungnir.    That's not meant as a slight against the Gungnir at all, it's an excellent DAC - my ears just seem to prefer the DS the more I compare the two.

 

All just my own subjective opinion, and I look forward to reading how Gary's impressions compare to what I'm hearing, especially against a larger field of competitors.   I'm a bit disappointed that the Hilo seems to be dead-set on bowing out of this, as I'd thought about going that route, too.

 

    -Mike

post #419 of 1331
We are still trying to get the Hilo in. Don't want to comment further until they get it back. Was shipped back yesterday.
post #420 of 1331
Think you should include a NOS dac
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