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post #256 of 1331
I like the Thailand idea.
post #257 of 1331
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I like the Thailand idea.


By the time I get done with this, even if I buy the most expensive DAC in the field, the cost, including all of the switches, and cables and splitters, shipping and alka seltzer, will be <$3K.  Airfare from Dulles in DC to Bangkok is ~$2300-2500 in the cattle-car section of the plane, which doesn't leave much for food, let alone a hotel. 

 

I'd much rather stay home and play with electronic toys than spend a day and a half each way crammed in an airline seat, then eating the cheapest food available and sleeping in flophouses.  But everybody has their idea of fun...

post #258 of 1331
If ya put it that way........
post #259 of 1331
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Speaking of cheap, I just looked on JRiver, and I think I'll wait a couple of days to download.  I'm going to use the 30-day free trial on their full-suite software as well, and would like to have that extend past 12/30... probably to 1/5 or so  Thus I won't download until next weekend.  If it takes me more than a couple hours to figure it out then there is something wrong with me or the software (undoubtedly me, but getting the software earlier won't fix my issues).

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By the time I get done with this, even if I buy the most expensive DAC in the field, the cost, including all of the switches, and cables and splitters, shipping and alka seltzer, will be <$3K.  Airfare from Dulles in DC to Bangkok is ~$2300-2500 in the cattle-car section of the plane, which doesn't leave much for food, let alone a hotel. 

I'd much rather stay home and play with electronic toys than spend a day and a half each way crammed in an airline seat, then eating the cheapest food available and sleeping in flophouses.  But everybody has their idea of fun...

Lol now I knew that couldn't be true, I found a bunch of tickets for less than 1200 wink.gif unless you were looking for specific dates
post #261 of 1331
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Gotta do these comparisons fairly, so I used the same days I was going to do the comparison test (day matching???)... mid Dec to early Jan... I have vacation days to burn before the end of the year, so it's pretty much then or not at all... and the cheapest price I found at both Priceline and Travelocity was >$2300.


Edited by Gary in MD - 12/1/13 at 9:14am
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Gotta do these comparisons fairly, so I used the same days I was going to do the comparison tes (day matching???)... mid Dec to early Jan... I have vacation days to burn before the end of the year, so it's pretty much then or not at all... and the cheapest price I found at both Priceline and Travelocity was >$2300.

I love how seriously and meticulously you treated what started as a joke. :P

post #263 of 1331
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I love how seriously and meticulously you treated what started as a joke. :P


Just trying to keep an unruly crowd entertained until the real show starts...

post #264 of 1331

Hey, what I do in Thailand for fun is nobody's business... just so long as I don't wind up like David Carradine...

post #265 of 1331
After watching Hangover 2, Thailand is probably one of the last places I want to go.

So.... How about them DAC's?
post #266 of 1331
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If ya put it that way........


this conversation has taken a turn towards the truly weird.......rolleyes.gif
post #267 of 1331
Thailand is a beautiful country and has an old history and well developed culinary palette. It's not always about sexual gratification. redface.gif Yeah, that's it, culinary palette.
post #268 of 1331

Gary a thought. Would be interesting if you can test these DACs, as to if Android phones can drive them directly over USB OTG. Long discussion in this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3510 Every few pages is the latest list of compatible DACs and Android phones. For Apple users I read on Leckerton site that iOS 7 makes it possible to get the music out while still in digital form (bypassing any DAC or amp in the phone) too, using some photo adapter Apple sells. 

 

I should also ask if you can test some IEM or CIEMs driven by the amps. These often present low-impedance or variable loads that some desktop amps don't synergize with. That was my experience with a couple low-end Audio-gd DAC/amps anyway. They sounded much better with big, high impedance headphones, than small low-impedance IEMs. 


Edited by Toe Tag - 12/1/13 at 8:06am
post #269 of 1331
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Gary a thought. Would be interesting if you can test these DACs, as to if Android phones can drive them directly over USB OTG. Long discussion in this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3510 Every few pages is the latest list of compatible DACs and Android phones. For Apple users I read on Leckerton site that iOS 7 makes it possible to get the music out while still in digital form (bypassing any DAC or amp in the phone) too, using some photo adapter Apple sells. 

 

I should also ask if you can test some IEM or CIEMs driven by the amps. These often present low-impedance or variable loads that some desktop amps don't synergize with. That was my experience with a couple low-end Audio-gd DAC/amps anyway. They sounded much better with big, high impedance headphones, than small low-impedance IEMs. 

I think this would be a fantastic idea seeing as you will have a good deal of great equipment at your disposal. It would be a perfect time to quickly test these things.

post #270 of 1331
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Originally Posted by Toe Tag View Post
 

Gary a thought. Would be interesting if you can test these DACs, as to if Android phones can drive them directly over USB OTG. Long discussion in this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3510 Every few pages is the latest list of compatible DACs and Android phones. For Apple users I read on Leckerton site that iOS 7 makes it possible to get the music out while still in digital form (bypassing any DAC or amp in the phone) too, using some photo adapter Apple sells. 

 

I should also ask if you can test some IEM or CIEMs driven by the amps. These often present low-impedance or variable loads that some desktop amps don't synergize with. That was my experience with a couple low-end Audio-gd DAC/amps anyway. They sounded much better with big, high impedance headphones, than small low-impedance IEMs. 


I haven't even thought about using phones to drive the DACs.  What connections are they using, i.e., what kind of cable?  Would I need an app?  I currently don't use my phone for audio at all, because the headphone out sounded bad with all of my IEMs.  I don't even remember what app I used for music when I tried it almost a year ago (I think I just tapped the file and noise came out... and when I say noise, I mean noise). 

 

I will soon have a Fiio X3 with line out capabilities that I could try with the DACs.  However... the focus of this test is sound comparisons using my computer's USB or Optical outputs.  If I have time to try the phone or the X3 I will, but recognize that I might have as many as 14 DACs to test over a few weeks, and time is going to be very tight.  Please don't be disappointed if I can't get to the phone test.

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