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GET NEXUS 5. IT sounds identical to Fiio X5 lol 





I doubt that. After some research I do believe that Nexus 5 sounds decently good, but it could do a little better in frequency response accuracy and the output power is below average (not shown below). 



 



Here's the table I merged from several different gsmarena reviews: 



 



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What do these values mean.

In short:

Frequency response: Closer to 0 values are better
Noise level: 0=worst; -99='best'
Dynamic range: Higher values are better
THD: Lower values are better
IMD + Noise: Lower values are better
Stereo crosstalk: -99='best'

As I suspected (and experienced), my old device - Desire HD performs very poorly (just look at that stereo crosstalk!), and I'am glad I haven't bought a Sensation a year ago too.
Edited by SmOgER - 1/9/15 at 4:25am
post #212 of 224
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Well its not only about the output of the device. Louder doesn't always mean better

 





Have you read the whole part about sound in that linked review? The only average aspect of it's SQ is stereo crosstalk, everything else - frequency response, dynamic range, noise levels... is practically top notch. Overall the SQ seems to be better than on HTC One, now that's quite the result! wink.gif



Also, when you have lots of extra gain, the EQ capabilities increase quite substantially.

 



According to that review, its virtually identical to the Nexus 5.
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According to that review, its virtually identical to the Nexus 5.

 


Sorry but you lost me there. Please elaborate based on what exactly did you draw that conclusion. All I know is this table, comments about output power, and the fact that Meizu uses Wolfson WM5102.
Edited by SmOgER - 1/9/15 at 11:10am
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According to that review, its virtually identical to the Nexus 5.

 



Sorry but you lost me there. Please elaborate based on what exactly did you draw that conclusion. All I know is this table, comments about output power, and the fact that Meizu uses Wolfson WM5102.

 



If you look at the test results from that review, and then bring up the Nexus 5 review, the results are virtually identical. For probably the most serious limitation of both devices, the dynamic range, the results are actually identical.

Not saying thats necessarily true, but if you believe that review (and you seem to) that is the obvious conclusion to draw.
post #215 of 224
Em... Just look at the table above. N5 frequency response is +0.18 -0.08, for MX3: +0.08 -0.02. how is that 'virtually the same'? It's not THAT far away, but it's enough to matter. On top of that we have a pretty big lack of output power in N5 and MX3 competing with One M8 in this aspect as mentioned in the corresponding reviews. I do love the design of N5, but unfortunately the SQ doesn't seem to deliver enough for me.
Edited by SmOgER - 1/9/15 at 1:43pm
post #216 of 224
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Em... Just look at the table above. N5 frequency response is +0.18 -0.08, for MX3: +0.08 -0.02. how is that 'virtually the same'?

 

Those units are in dB, meaning that the difference is extraordinary small and completely irrelevant.  

 

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It's not THAT far away, but it's enough to matter. 

 

You know most EQs only have integer dB settings right?  And you're worried about hundreds of a dB?  No its not enough to matter.  Get out foobar or something running rockbox, fire up the EQ at 80 Hz and see what I mean.  

 

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On top of that we have a pretty big lack of output power in N5 and MX3 competing with One M8 in this aspect as mentioned in the corresponding reviews. 
 

Actually, if you believe those RMAA results, the output power is higher on the N5 (look at the noise floor and dynamic range numbers).  Which is obviously not true, but like I said, if you believe the review they're the same :)

post #217 of 224

Just played with the stock equalizer of my newly acquired Nexus 5. Holy ****! What a difference a small tweak can make. Now the sound quality through headphones noticably improves, particularly much more 3D and airier soundstage, bass is cleaner and tighter, details and separation improve. Classical never sounds more awesome. Now I prefer listening through the Nexus than the Fiio E10K.

 

My headphones are HD558 (w/ foam mod) and MX985 earbuds (w/ thinner foams). My EQ settings are: -1 dB, -2, -1, 0, -2, respectively, bass boost off, surround sound off.

 

 External speaker is still horrible though. Pretty much unfixable.

post #218 of 224
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Just played with the stock equalizer of my newly acquired Nexus 5. Holy ****! What a difference a small tweak can make. Now the sound quality through headphones noticably improves, particularly much more 3D and airier soundstage, bass is cleaner and tighter, details and separation improve. Classical never sounds more awesome. Now I prefer listening through the Nexus than the Fiio E10K.

My headphones are HD558 (w/ foam mod) and MX985 earbuds (w/ thinner foams). My EQ settings are: -1 dB, -2, -1, 0, -2, respectively, bass boost off, surround sound off.

 External speaker is still horrible though. Pretty much unfixable.


I have a nexus 5, rooted, clockworkmod recovery, and flashed the latest build of CyanogenMod 12. This custom ROM has done astonishing things on the audio aspect of this phone. In it's stock form, it didn't sound too shabby, although the bass was a bit boomy and distorted while the amp section was weak and I often cranked it to 100% with my px100ii. With the custom ROM, I don't go over 80% volume, the bass is authoritative but controlled and the mids are fuller. One particular aspect that impresses me about this phone, is the imaging of the soundstage. It is not quite as good as my Fiio X5 but it is not that far off, either.
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Does anyone know why the album artwork of a song is zoomed in heaps on Play Music?

post #220 of 224

Will I be disappointed if I switch from iphone 4s to nexus 5? I use Vsonic VSD3S.

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Will I be disappointed if I switch from iphone 4s to nexus 5? I use Vsonic VSD3S.

 

If you're referring to SQ only, then yes. If the rest of the device is a consideration then no.

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I'am not sure if it has been mentioned and I simply forgot, but what DAC does the N5 have?
post #223 of 224
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I'am not sure if it has been mentioned and I simply forgot, but what DAC does the N5 have?


Its said to be the same as the one in LG G2, specifically Wolfson WCD9320 as per the service manual (mentioned in the relevant xda thread).

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Its said to be the same as the one in LG G2, specifically Wolfson WCD9320 as per the service manual (mentioned in the relevant xda thread).

This seems unlikely? They're both Snapdragon SoCs, which sport the Qualcomm DAC.

Edit: Seems I stand corrected, LG confirmed the Wolfson. Anandtech had a piece on the audio in the Nexus 5 and G2, they're not identical in terms of audio output despite the similarity of internals.
Edited by NZtechfreak - 4/17/15 at 8:45pm
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