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As far as I analysed info, a 80 ohm model will be nearly 3x more quiet on a 32 ohms supporting mobile phone... Is there so much room to not use that loudness??

No it won't be

 

yea you might want to get an amp but you can't make baseless assumtptions like that and... 

 

honestly here's my recommendation. Phones sound bad, most of thier dacs are sup par. SOME are nice yea but honestly... buy your self a Saza Clip Zip get some Lossless music, grab a Fiio e11 and get a pair of Sound Magic HP 100s and you should b in heaven! 

 

the Clip is like $40 maybe, the E11 u can get used for around $30 or so and the HP 100 are around $150 used $200 new, the E11 has a +3 and +6 I think bass boost option SO if the Hp 100 are not bassy enough the amp will fix that. You can buy from head fi Or you can check Amazon or B&H, not sure which of those will ship to u! 


Edited by Mshenay - 11/3/13 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

No it won't be

 

yea you might want to get an amp but you can't make baseless assumtptions like that and... 

 

honestly here's my recommendation. Phones sound bad, most of thier dacs are sup par. SOME are nice yea but honestly... buy your self a Saza Clip Zip get some Lossless music, grab a Fiio e11 and get a pair of Sound Magic HP 100s and you should b in heaven! 

 

the Clip is like $40 maybe, the E11 u can get used for around $30 or so and the HP 100 are around $150 used $200 new, the E11 has a +3 and +6 I think bass boost option SO if the Hp 100 are not bassy enough the amp will fix that. You can buy from head fi Or you can check Amazon or B&H, not sure which of those will ship to u! 

Budget and headache :DDD

Sorry for negating your state :(

http://www.gsmarena.com/latest_features-review-171p2.php

 

Here is some in-depth info regarding supporting headphones for that gsm.

Can someony analize it?

post #18 of 28
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Is there so much room to not use that loudness
 

Budget and headache :DDD

Sorry for negating your state :(

http://www.gsmarena.com/latest_features-review-171p2.php

 

Here is some in-depth info regarding supporting headphones for that gsm.

Can someony analize it?

You could try something like the ATH a900x which can be found for about $100 used on US eBay that is another good option. 

 

AND the ohms are about 32 which means no issues with any phone issues. You might be able to find them in your country for under $200. They have a sound simmilar to the DT 770 pro 80 but just not with as warm ePads ;3 [I've owned the A900x I think you would like it as well sonically] 

 

 

As to the loudness, yea a 80ohm might run out of room off a cell phone. Again I've never tried so I can't make any definate statements

 

there is also the M Audio Q 40 which is a nice bass heavy headphone with very good sound quality, although again I've not heard it 

post #19 of 28
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You could try something like the ATH a900x which can be found for about $100 used on US eBay that is another good option. 

 

AND the ohms are about 32 which means no issues with any phone issues. You might be able to find them in your country for under $200. They have a sound simmilar to the DT 770 pro 80 but just not with as warm ePads ;3 [I've owned the A900x I think you would like it as well sonically] 

 

 

As to the loudness, yea a 80ohm might run out of room off a cell phone. Again I've never tried so I can't make any definate statements

 

there is also the M Audio Q 40 which is a nice bass heavy headphone with very good sound quality, although again I've not heard it 

 

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I've got a theory that impedance means the trust to volume. We may have a 8 ohm headset speaker be loud, but the distortion will be OMG, also we may lower the distortion at a given volume by manufacturing 32 ohm equivalent, lowering max volume (if power supply the same). Hope I was clear.

 

If i'm right, the question of using 80 ohm headset is WILL THERE BE enough volume?

I mean which is the MAX volume of the given headsets.

I shall find out which is my preferred volume, of course... But as I stated, i'm okay with the low volume if there is proper isolation... Omg, i'm confused.

 

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You could try something like the ATH a900x which can be found for about $100 used on US eBay that is another good option. 

 

AND the ohms are about 32 which means no issues with any phone issues. You might be able to find them in your country for under $200. They have a sound simmilar to the DT 770 pro 80 but just not with as warm ePads ;3 [I've owned the A900x I think you would like it as well sonically] 

 

 

As to the loudness, yea a 80ohm might run out of room off a cell phone. Again I've never tried so I can't make any definate statements

 

there is also the M Audio Q 40 which is a nice bass heavy headphone with very good sound quality, although again I've not heard it 

 

There is a 32 ohm DT 770 Pro. Is that a good option for the money?

Where can I buy it from?


Edited by MygpuK - 11/3/13 at 9:59am
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I've got a theory that impedance means the trust to volume. We may have a 8 ohm headset speaker be loud, but the distortion will be OMG, also we may lower the distortion at a given volume by manufacturing 32 ohm equivalent, lowering max volume (if power supply the same). Hope I was clear.

 

If i'm right, the question of using 80 ohm headset is WILL THERE BE enough volume?

I mean which is the MAX volume of the given headsets.

I shall find out which is my preferred volume, of course... But as I stated, i'm okay with the low volume if there is proper isolation... Omg, i'm confused.

Ohms does not garentee quality, Higher ohms tend to feature less distortion when paird with very powerful sources. Your cell phone is NOT powerful enough to distort anything... trust us. WIll there be enough voulme, I have no id honestly... again ... have no idea how much volume head room you would have with a cell phone. ANd the audio quality depends on the cell phone, and the volume depends again on your cell phone... Cell Phones have a lot of varibles that will have an affect on sound quality. 

 

Additionally, Low impedance and high impedance both have the potential to distort, and both are equally capable of producing high quality sound. Again the ONLY way you can get distortion is with an to much or too little power. If anything a cell phone will sufffer from too little. Even with 32 ohms you run the chance of not having enough Current to drive a headphone. So again getting an amp is a good idea, 

 

As far as gaming go, I again don't have any big clues. And for the device you listed a review on, not much on that either. The power specs are an nice touch though!  

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Ohms does not garentee quality, Higher ohms tend to feature less distortion when paird with very powerful sources. Your cell phone is NOT powerful enough to distort anything... trust us. WIll there be enough voulme, I have no id honestly... again ... have no idea how much volume head room you would have with a cell phone. ANd the audio quality depends on the cell phone, and the volume depends again on your cell phone... Cell Phones have a lot of varibles that will have an affect on sound quality. 

 

Additionally, Low impedance and high impedance both have the potential to distort, and both are equally capable of producing high quality sound. Again the ONLY way you can get distortion is with an to much or too little power. If anything a cell phone will sufffer from too little. Even with 32 ohms you run the chance of not having enough Current to drive a headphone. So again getting an amp is a good idea, 

 

As far as gaming go, I again don't have any big clues. And for the device you listed a review on, not much on that either. The power specs are an nice touch though!  

Thanks for the reply!

I suppose i'll just get the DT 770 Pro 80 ohms for ~130EUR (good price??)

Also, when i'll have the money, i'll buy FIIO E7.

 

Nice solution?

post #22 of 28
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Thanks for the reply!

I suppose i'll just get the DT 770 Pro 80 ohms for ~130EUR (good price??)

Also, when i'll have the money, i'll buy FIIO E7.

 

Nice solution?

It sounds good, I'm not sure of best price in the EU. What is your cell phone btw, and the E7... might have enough power but I would try and save for the E11 if you could! 

 

Still try the M Audio Q-40 first if you can, it has less resistance So out of a cell phone it should be driven just fine out of most cell phones. 

post #23 of 28
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It sounds good, I'm not sure of best price in the EU. What is your cell phone btw, and the E7... might have enough power but I would try and save for the E11 if you could! 

 

Still try the M Audio Q-40 first if you can, it has less resistance So out of a cell phone it should be driven just fine out of most cell phones. 

teh velvet cushions murmurmur :D

I felt in love with DT770.

The phone is Sony Xperia M, I suppose. (If i'll find the power lacking, i'll get the FIIO e7, because as I've read those FIIO guys may be trusted. They state 1 Ah  battery and 32-300 Ohm support. Can't find out from reviews which are other things to pay for. As a begginer audiophile, I would hardly find difference in the finest sound quality aspects.)

(only samsung as an alternative but i don't trust their builds)

 

TO BE CLEAR: I cannot "try" anything because it cannot be found in my country, lol.


Edited by MygpuK - 11/3/13 at 10:44am
post #24 of 28
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teh velvet cushions murmurmur :D

I felt in love with DT770.

The phone is Sony Xperia M, I suppose. If i'll find the power lacking, i'll get the FIIO e7, because as I've read those FIIO guys may be trusted. They state 1 Ah  battery and 32-300 Ohm support. Can't find out from reviews which are other things to pay for. As a begginer audiophile, I would hardly find difference in the finest sound quality aspects. 

(only samsung as an alternative but i don't trust their builds)

 

TO BE CLEAR: I cannot "try" anything because it cannot be found in my country, lol.

Sounds good then, again I have not heard the Dt 770 BUT I can PROMISE it's going to be warm and fuzzy on your ears 

 

and the bass should be nice as well. and the price sounds prety good actually :O

 

and yea Fiio makes a nice prdouct. Althou8gh you might want to try and save for the E07k 

post #25 of 28
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Sounds good then, again I have not heard the Dt 770 BUT I can PROMISE it's going to be warm and fuzzy on your ears 

 

and the bass should be nice as well. and the price sounds prety good actually :O

 

and yea Fiio makes a nice prdouct. Althou8gh you might want to try and save for the E07k 

I have already met the e07K option opinion on teh webs!

Very nice, thank you! Reps is yours! :)

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I have already met the e07K option opinion on teh webs!

Very nice, thank you! Reps is yours! :)

Sounds good! Enjoy it my friend! 

post #27 of 28

The construction on the ATH M50 is intrinsically solid, except for the surface of the earpads.  Those degrade over time and while still usable , the surface become tattered looking and not as smooth on the ear.  Notwithstanding, I've never felt the need to change mine.  Have traveled by bus, train, plane, bike and stuffed them in every variety of backpack, duffle, panniers and they have held up well.  Very satisfied with the quality overall.

 

Good isolation.

 

Portability: they are not too big and they do swivel.  HOWEVER the cord is very long and fairly beefy.  So you will definitely have to roll it up and stuff the excess in your pocket if you're walking about.

 

I don't have enough experience to compare to other models, unfortunately.  Expecially since you lean to the "monitor" side of sound experience, these should rate pretty highly.  I still enjoy what it can do after 5 years of steady use.

 

FWIW, IMO, etc.

post #28 of 28
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The construction on the ATH M50 is intrinsically solid, except for the surface of the earpads.  Those degrade over time and while still usable , the surface become tattered looking and not as smooth on the ear.  Notwithstanding, I've never felt the need to change mine.  Have traveled by bus, train, plane, bike and stuffed them in every variety of backpack, duffle, panniers and they have held up well.  Very satisfied with the quality overall.

 

Good isolation.

 

Portability: they are not too big and they do swivel.  HOWEVER the cord is very long and fairly beefy.  So you will definitely have to roll it up and stuff the excess in your pocket if you're walking about.

 

I don't have enough experience to compare to other models, unfortunately.  Expecially since you lean to the "monitor" side of sound experience, these should rate pretty highly.  I still enjoy what it can do after 5 years of steady use.

 

FWIW, IMO, etc.

Very nice, thanks!

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