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post #586 of 4470

When you consider that a Kingston 128gb fullsize SD is only $86, I'd even settle for no MicroSD slot, and just one fullsize SD slot in its place.

 

By the time 128gb MicroSD cards are finally made available, a 256gb fullsize SD will probably be about $300.

 

 

 

Actually, whilst we're on the topic of memory cards, I hope the Calyx-M doesn't forcibly index the memory card every time it boots. I'd like to see a 'manual-only' card indexing option in the firmware, and, even better, an option to write the index data to the card, so that one can rapidly change cards and not have to wait for re-indexing at all (unless the contents of the card have been changed, in which case one would obviously require it to be re-indexed).

 

 

 



Edited by Mython - 1/31/14 at 4:22pm
post #587 of 4470

:beerchug:

post #588 of 4470

(NOTE: THE LEFTHAND IS A FAKE IMAGE, just for hypothetical purposes. The RIGHTHAND IMAGE is CURRENTLY REAL)

 

 

I wonder if the buttons will end up looking like this?:

 


Edited by Mython - 2/2/14 at 1:27pm
post #589 of 4470
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

(NOTE: THIS IS A FAKE IMAGE, just for hypothetical purposes)

 

 

I wonder if the buttons will end up looking like this?:

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

Nice Photoshopping.  :-)

 

However, I doubt that they will abandon the magnetic sliding volume control. That is a cool feature.

post #590 of 4470
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Nice Photoshopping.  :-)

 

However, I doubt that they will abandon the magnetic sliding volume control. That is a cool feature.

 

Well, my thinking was that they have very limited space, so the obvious place to make a 'land-grab' for [REW] [FFW] buttons would be in the void where the volume slider currently resides :tongue:

 

...but just for you, here's an alternative hypothetical fake image:

 

 

 

 

Additionally, I would hate to see them make the stupid ergonomic error of placing the[REW] [FFW] buttons on the opposite side of the chassis to the volume slider, for reasons I've previously discussed.

 

Furthermore, I am struggling to see what is 'cool' about a magnetic slider - I mean really, what practical benefit is there to have that instead of a standard rocker button? Seems like a gimmick to me, but if I'm missing something, here, then I'm happy to be enlightened by someone. I suspect it's intended to provide more of a linear analogue feel instead of the pressing action of a standard rocker, but this isn't ideal for a device that's intended for pocket use, because it can accidentally go to full volume and damage your CIEMs or your ears. That's no joke.

 

In the earlier Photoshopped image, you can see I've made the [REW] [FFW] buttons proud of the chassis, like the [PLAY/PAUSE] button, whereas the volume buttons are flush.

 

That's not actually ideal, but one has to have some way of distinguishing them from each other by touch alone. Sony did it, on the NW-ZX1, by making the buttons different sizes, so that would still be an option on the Calyx-M, allowing them to make ALL the buttons proud of the chassis for easy touch-identification in one's pocket.


Edited by Mython - 2/2/14 at 10:48pm
post #591 of 4470
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

Furthermore, I am struggling to see what is 'cool' about a magnetic slider - I mean really, what practical benefit is there to have that instead of a standard rocker button? Seems like a gimmick to me, but if I'm missing something, here, then I'm happy to be enlightened by someone.

 

I won't know until I try it but I think that it has potential to be cool. We will see.

 

(I know that from a marketing perspective, distinguishing features can be important so I doubt that Calyx will get rid of it.)

post #592 of 4470
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I won't know until I try it but I think that it has potential to be cool. We will see.

 

(I know that from a marketing perspective, distinguishing features can be important so I doubt that Calyx will get rid of it.)

 

I think a far more influential distinguishing feature would be memory capacity-&-expansion options that properly cater for large Hi-Res files, and, of course, excellent SQ.

 

I'm optimistic that they have the excellent SQ handled, but really wish they'd improve the memory capacity options. The bottom of the device has what appears to be a sliding hatch for microSD card insertion. It'd be fantastic if the Calyx team would make the effort to modify that, and the circuitboard, to accommodate fullsize SD :normal_smile :

 

 


Edited by Mython - 2/1/14 at 9:00am
post #593 of 4470
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It'd be fantastic if the Calyx team would make the effort to modify that, and the circuitboard, to accommodate fullsize SD :normal_smile :

 

Indeed! A fairly easy high-function upgrade.

post #594 of 4470
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Indeed! A fairly easy high-function upgrade.

Fairly Easy.............

 

High function sure but that first part is out of line.

 

I really do like how Calyx have been listening and making adjustments though. If only certain other DAP makers would do so instead of blatantly blindsiding us with stuff out of nowhere! (even if that stuff is pretty neat in itself)

 

I will make my plea later though.


Edited by D3Seeker - 2/1/14 at 11:56am
post #595 of 4470
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Fairly Easy.............

 

High function sure but that first part is out of line.

 

 

 

"...out of line" -   that's putting it a bit strongly, don't you think?

 

We all realise that altering the microSD socket to fullsize SD will require alteration of the circuit board design so as to make room for the larger socket, and that's not easy when you have such a densely-populated circuit board for a complex high-end device like this. But that really doesn't seem any more major than adding 2 [REW] [FFW] buttons to the circuitboard, which were, previously, non-existent. Also, please remember that this suggestion has only been made following seeming refusal to increase the onboard memory capacity (perhaps Calyx already purchased the 64gb chips). Or maybe Calyx will give us a nice surprise and secretly increase the onboard memory capacity. But one thing is apparent, and that's that many potential customers of the Calyx-M may be dissuaded from buying one, if Calyx do nothing to increase the memory capacity or at least increase the physical format size of the card.

 

These changes (addition of [REW] [FFW] buttons, and, hopefully, altering the card slot to fullsize SD) may make a dramatic difference to both the usability of the DAP and to the number of sales the Calyx-M achieves. Provided the Calyx team feel able to accommodate the changes, both they, and their customers, stand to benefit considerably, so it's 'win-win', once the initial hurdle has been overcome, even if that pre-release hurdle may indeed be hard-going for the team.

 

 

 



Edited by Mython - 2/1/14 at 12:19pm
post #596 of 4470
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

 

"...out of line" -   that's putting it a bit strongly, don't you think?

 

We all realise that altering the microSD socket to fullsize SD will require alteration of the circuit board design so as to make room for the larger socket, and that's not easy when you have such a densely-populated circuit board for a complex high-end device like this. But that really doesn't seem any more major than adding 2 [REW] [FFW] buttons to the circuitboard, which were, previously, non-existent. Also, please remember that this suggestion has only been made following seeming refusal to increase the onboard memory capacity (perhaps Calyx already purchased the 64gb chips). Or maybe Calyx will give us a nice surprise and secretly increase the onboard memory capacity. But one thing is apparent, and that's that many potential customers of the Calyx-M may be dissuaded from buying one, if Calyx do nothing to increase the memory capacity or at least increase the physical format size of the card.

 

These changes (addition of [REW] [FFW] buttons, and, hopefully, altering the card slot to fullsize SD) may make a dramatic difference to both the usability of the DAP and to the number of sales the Calyx-M achieves. Provided the Calyx team feel able to accommodate the changes, both they, and their customers, stand to benefit considerably, so it's 'win-win', once the initial hurdle has been overcome, even if that pre-release hurdle may indeed be hard-going for the team.

 

 

 


Agree entirely

post #597 of 4470

More important, Calyx need to understand that the $999 that they advertise should NOT be a constraint for them.  

 

Instead, they should create a " M+ " version with internal boosted from 64 Gb to 256 Gb or... 512 Gb, at something like $ 1500.

 

I am sure that they will be surprised by the number of people that will choose the M+ version.  But... they seems not to be convinced about this :-(


Edited by bmichels - 2/1/14 at 1:54pm
post #598 of 4470

so they should sell another version of the M with more storage name it  "M+" and sell it for $1500, have you ever wonder why these companies come up with these ridiculous overpriced daps?

post #599 of 4470
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

More important, Calyx need to understand that the $999 that they advertise should NOT be a constraint for them.  

Instead, they should create a " M+ " version with internal boosted from 64 Gb to 256 Gb or... 512 Gb, at something like $ 1500.

I am sure that they will be surprised by the number of people that will choose the M+ version.  But... they seems not to be convinced about this :-(

I would prefer Calyx does not listen to you and would keep the price of M to 999$.

want more storage? easy, buy more memory cards, swapping cards is not rocket science. tongue.gif
post #600 of 4470
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I would prefer Calyx does not listen to you and would keep the price of M to 999$.

want more storage? easy, buy more memory cards, swapping cards is not rocket science. tongue.gif

Well, with my proposal, there will be 2 versions: a " M " version at $999 and a " M+ " version with much higher capacity at $ 1500 for example.  You choose ....

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