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monkeygod how is the sound on your production unit... ?  Reports so far have been really mixed ? What is your take on it ?

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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post

monkeygod how is the sound on your production unit... ?  Reports so far have been really mixed ? What is your take on it ?
Well, strictly speaking only about sq, I think most of korean users say many positive things about M with one condition if you use it with right earphones/headphones, for example yuin pk1.
But they have mixed opinion on M being 'the ultimate dap' like calyx said initially, even in the same price point. M is not necesarily have better sq than ak120, hifiman 901, or even ak100.
And if consider many bugs that calyx promised to solve but not yet solved...then it is very hard to say M is must-buy. The best evalution so far from thr users is this "if you gonna buy just one dap dont but M, but if you already have various dap and want another one with unique sound then buy M."
Edited by ohotonge - 5/27/14 at 7:40am
post #2943 of 5495

Calyx M 'Unboxing'

 

 

mmm ... shiny :D (my unit came preloaded with a couple of Korean songs, but obviously I've loaded in my own SD/microSD cards)

 

 

The rest of the box contents - Sampler DVD of 24/192 khz music, 2 x micro USB cables (1 short, 1 long) & 1 cloth pouch

 

 

Running the latest firmware - which might actually be a bit buggier than 0.5 :(

 

 

Sorry about the weird photo compositions - the cameraphone has a minimum focusing distance and I wanted to get a quick post in before I crash ;)

post #2944 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post
 

monkeygod how is the sound on your production unit... ?  Reports so far have been really mixed ? What is your take on it ?

 

Hey guys,

 

Sprry about the lack of an SQ report - went on a working vacation without the notebook I'd used to record my impressions. I'll try and do something a little more detailed later, but for now here's the executive summary.

 

The Calyx M is an excellent DAP, but not the King of the Mountain. I pit it directly against an AK240 as well as the Chord Hugo and it did *not* topple their crowns, BUT ... considering it's price and feature set, I still wound up buying it over either of these alternatives. I owned an AK100 (RWA mod) for over a year, so I'm very familiar with the AK sound signature. I also owned the HM801 (balanced module) prior to that and auditioned the HM901 extensively.

 

I would say the Calyx M has better SQ than the AK100/AK120, having more detail and a richer sound than either of those models. It has a very different sound sig to the HM901, being less expansive with perhaps a touch less resolution while being smoother and more responsive to dynamic changes. When compared to the AK240, I would say that the AK is closer to a 'Studio' performance - very clean, controlled and detailed and the Calyx is more like a 'live' performance - responsive, engaging and organic. 

 

The big question - Is it 'Warm' ? During my audition at Jaben SG, I thought it was fairly neutral with *slightly* warm tones. However I don't know if the production model has tweaked the amp stage (it seems more efficient?) or just needs burn in as it is *definitely* on the warm side now. Not unpleasantly so, nor does it affect most details but I would say it is more noticeable - well suited for rock/pop and jazz, perhaps less so for classical and electronic.

 

I've only had 2-3 hours after charging/loading songs/full work day to play with the new set, but I'll do my best to chime in with some more impressions over the weekend. But I thought it was good enough to buy ;)

 

0.6 firmware note - seems a bit glitchy. ALAC/m4a support seems to have taken a step back - possibly removed until they get it totally right for the next release (previously i thought it played most ALAC but not AAC m4a) and was getting some mild graphic errors while loading tracks, but those seem to be gone for now (shaky interface then some ghosting dots along the left edge of the screen). I've also noticed that shuffle playback is not available for 'all tracks', only for individual artists/albums which is *very* annoying for me :( Finish is also better on the production unit, with the bevelled edges being nice and smooth and the 'lip' at the bottom of the front screen feeling nice and protective.

post #2945 of 5495

Any issues with FLAC or CBR MP3?

post #2946 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

Any issues with FLAC or CBR MP3?

 

no issues with FLAC, CBR or VBR mp3, AIFF, DSF ... so far ;)

 

when i tested with the 0.5 demo unit, WAV was also fine but it would not play OGG though.

post #2947 of 5495

No issue with VBR makes it better than the AK ;)

post #2948 of 5495

Do you recall how it sounds vs a 901?

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Originally Posted by monkeygod View Post
 

 

"System build number: JDQ39". So that is confirmed running on Android 4.2.2_r1 according to Android Open Source Project (AOSP).

post #2950 of 5495
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Originally Posted by monkeygod View Post
 

 

Hey guys,

 

Sprry about the lack of an SQ report - went on a working vacation without the notebook I'd used to record my impressions. I'll try and do something a little more detailed later, but for now here's the executive summary.

 

The Calyx M is an excellent DAP, but not the King of the Mountain. I pit it directly against an AK240 as well as the Chord Hugo and it did *not* topple their crowns, BUT ... considering it's price and feature set, I still wound up buying it over either of these alternatives. I owned an AK100 (RWA mod) for over a year, so I'm very familiar with the AK sound signature. I also owned the HM801 (balanced module) prior to that and auditioned the HM901 extensively.

 

I would say the Calyx M has better SQ than the AK100/AK120, having more detail and a richer sound than either of those models. It has a very different sound sig to the HM901, being less expansive with perhaps a touch less resolution while being smoother and more responsive to dynamic changes. When compared to the AK240, I would say that the AK is closer to a 'Studio' performance - very clean, controlled and detailed and the Calyx is more like a 'live' performance - responsive, engaging and organic. 

 

The big question - Is it 'Warm' ? During my audition at Jaben SG, I thought it was fairly neutral with *slightly* warm tones. However I don't know if the production model has tweaked the amp stage (it seems more efficient?) or just needs burn in as it is *definitely* on the warm side now. Not unpleasantly so, nor does it affect most details but I would say it is more noticeable - well suited for rock/pop and jazz, perhaps less so for classical and electronic.

 

I've only had 2-3 hours after charging/loading songs/full work day to play with the new set, but I'll do my best to chime in with some more impressions over the weekend. But I thought it was good enough to buy ;)

 

0.6 firmware note - seems a bit glitchy. ALAC/m4a support seems to have taken a step back - possibly removed until they get it totally right for the next release (previously i thought it played most ALAC but not AAC m4a) and was getting some mild graphic errors while loading tracks, but those seem to be gone for now (shaky interface then some ghosting dots along the left edge of the screen). I've also noticed that shuffle playback is not available for 'all tracks', only for individual artists/albums which is *very* annoying for me :( Finish is also better on the production unit, with the bevelled edges being nice and smooth and the 'lip' at the bottom of the front screen feeling nice and protective.

 

Just wonder.Did you use and have the AK120 ? How did you decide it is better than AK120 ? 

post #2951 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Bluebear View Post
 

"System build number: JDQ39". So that is confirmed running on Android 4.2.2_r1 according to Android Open Source Project (AOSP).

 

How unfortunate; the developers will likely face unnecessary problems and complications. 


Edited by bcarr112281 - 5/27/14 at 12:34pm
post #2952 of 5495
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Originally Posted by bcarr112281 View Post
 

 

How unfortunate; the developers will likely face unnecessary problems and complications. 

 

Yes, I remembered Android 4.2.x Jelly Bean has quite a few bugs and suffers from some UI lags, etc. on mobile phones.

post #2953 of 5495

I got up in the morning and grab my Calyx M...

First thing what I do is connecting this to my LCD-X, then I listen,,,

 

I listen to Closer of Deadmaus...

I hear exact resolution of every single sound of this song...

 

Then I realize once again, This is an fantastic device.

 

Now I pick up my Focal Pro... to do my morning work out..

 

Every single receiver of mine got upgraded by this amazing device.

 

This definitely is an shocking device made by Cybertron technology.

I appreciate the sound of this device!!


Edited by hellGeeea - 5/27/14 at 2:29pm
post #2954 of 5495

Some positive comments coming through from monkeygod and hellGeeea - thanks guys.

 

monkeygod - I am liking your description of the SQ as a live/organic thing.  Just my cup of tea.

 

However...

 

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Originally Posted by monkeygod View Post
 

 

no issues with FLAC, CBR or VBR mp3, AIFF, DSF ... so far ;)

 

when i tested with the 0.5 demo unit, WAV was also fine but it would not play OGG though.

 

Is OGG okay with the 0.6 firmware?  The official specs for it claim OGG playback, so if it's not working that's a deal breaker for me as over half of my collection is in OGG and I don't really fancy ripping it all again.

 

Also, once you've done a few more miles on it, it would be interesting to hear about its battery life on a single charge with everyday use.

 

Also also - are there any known issues with file limits?  As it's basically running on Android I'm guessing not, but with the Fiio and the AKs 100 and 120 suffering from file limits, it still seems to be a prevalent (yet unnecessary) problem in the DAP market.


Edited by greatbadir - 5/27/14 at 11:46pm
post #2955 of 5495

I just had a loaner unit arrive. I received an email that there will be a firmware update in June, so I'm waiting for that before writing up anything detailed about it. I plugged it in as a DAC and listened with the LCD-XC and was pretty pleased with the results so far.

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