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post #2836 of 5502

Nah you're just creating special rules for different devices based on size and price.   Apples to oranges would be comparing the M to my big rig which can't be used where the M can no matter how much I'd like to.

post #2837 of 5502

Calyx-M is a DAP.

 

Centrance M8 is not a DAP.

 

See the difference?

 

No special rules required...

post #2838 of 5502

This is starting to look just like how people insist on comparing AK240 with Hugo... an all-in-one DAP vs a DAC+Amp because they are in similar price range and sonic tier.

post #2839 of 5502
So wait, does the HUGO sound better than AK240?? LOL...

I'd like more info on the battery life on the M. How was it determined? screen on? Brightness full? wifi on?
post #2840 of 5502
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Originally Posted by warrior1975 View Post

So wait, does the HUGO sound better than AK240?? LOL...

I'd like more info on the battery life on the M. How was it determined? screen on? Brightness full? wifi on?

 

Hugo owners definitely insist it sounds better than AK240 sonically and as an AK240 owner myself who has auditioned also the Hugo, I do not dispute their claims. Hugo is definitely excellent, only 3 main issues I have against it short of buying Hugo myself is that 

 

1) It has no balanced in/out.

2) It is not a DAP.

3) It shines when used with cans versus AK240, but not so much when used with IEMs and I only use IEMs exclusively.

 

Thus, you will definitely need to pile a transport device on top of it and end up with a stack. Hugo in itself is already a little too big for a pocketable portable device, let alone stacking another device onto it.

 

Ok, enough of Hugo vs AK240 talk. Let's not get OT.

post #2841 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

Calyx-M is a DAP.

 

Centrance M8 is not a DAP.

 

See the difference?

 

Nope.  You may use them differently but I wouldn't.  Meaning both are on the list of devices I would consider if I needed a device or several devices to have one rig at home, the commute and office.  Meaning on top of portable use it's also a fully functional usb dac.  The AK240, a Hugo or Cypher stack and X5 also make that list.

 

As you can imagine, I would love the M to be competitive with the above since out of my options it and the AK240 are the ones with the best quality of life.  Add that the M is 40% the cost of the AK240 and it would be a no brainer.  The X5 is even less but like the DX90 isn't likely to compete at that level though should be very close to each other given aside from dac chip choice they are more or less clones of each other.  The X5 does make better design choices on paper.  Especially in its usb dac implementation.  But it's ugly :P


Edited by Solude - 5/19/14 at 11:10am
post #2842 of 5502
I don't really see the comparison. The M, is a DAP, which means that it should be fully portable (since we are talking about portability) without adding something else to it. Centrance, portable or not, needs a source, another piece of equipment. 2 very different things.

If the M can not last for more than 4 or 5 hours, that'd mean you need either a portable charger or another unit, hurting it's portability.
post #2843 of 5502

Or a place of work that isn't 5 hours away :P

post #2844 of 5502
I'd hope most don't work 5 hours away... prime example, I'm going back to NY, 2 hour plane ride, 1 hour commute each way, sitting time in the airport. 5 hours done. if it gets 4...even worse. 5 hours is rare for me, the most I'm normally away is 2-3, so I'd be fine. I'd still prefer a little extra time though.
post #2845 of 5502

Well, we're being spoiled-for-choice, as 2014 unfolds...

 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geek-wave-it-s-not-a-next-gen-ipod-it-s-a-no-compromise-portable-music-player

 

(thanks to AmberOzl for the link)

 

 

look what is happening in the industry/marketplace:

 

 

  • Ayre Acoustics (quite a serious name in fullsize hi-fi DACs) gets on-board with the PONO  (not great, but still, the point is that they are a serious fullsize hi-fi maker taking an interest in the portable/headphone market).
  • Digital & Analog (well-regarded for their fullsize mid-high-end 'Femto' DAC) enter the fray with a serious attempt at the TOTL audiophile DAP market - looks now like it might not be as good as hoped, but it may yet surprise us, as more reviews appear, and as it finally achieves international release. And, if nothing else, it may be a stepping-stone to something awesome with a subsequent model, if they decide to learn from the M and produce something even better.
  • Chord Electronics (a very serious name in high-end fullsize hi-fi) releases a ground-breaking portable DAC-Amp aimed primarily at headphone users, but with a performance that actually exceeds their fullsize flagship DAC costing 10x more. That is absolutely unheard of, in both senses of the word.
  • Light Harmonic (a company world-famous for producing an uber-high-end DAC, which is renowned as one of the absolute best in the world) is producing a high-end DAP at a mid-range (in audiophile terms) price.

 

 

Things are hotting-up in a way none of us head-fiers could have seriously anticipated, just 12months ago. It's one thing to see iBasso and Fiio make better and better DAPs (which is a wonderful thing in itself), but to also see some extremely serious and well-established fullsize audiophile brands enter the portable gear marketplace is really excellent for all of us portable audiophiles.

 

Who knows what may be next?

 

I'm really looking forward to seeing something portable from Naim, before long (I don't know for certain, but I'm confident it will happen, since Chord and Meridian have already entered the headphone-centric market). I'm not saying it will necessarily be a DAP, but who knows what the near future will bring - Apple's dominance in the DAP world cannot last forever, particularly as they are no longer innovating and are just being run by a board of bean-counters, it seems, since SJ's demise. I daresay Apple will release a hi-res-capable DAP fairly soon (it's inevitable), but how seriously they will take it, in terms of audiophile circuitry, remains to be seen and they've done nothing to enthuse me in the past 5 years, on that count.

 

 

 

I hope D&A hurry up and release the M internationally - the clock is ticking, and I genuinely wish them to see an acceptable return on their investment. Broadly-speaking, it's in everyone's interests for audiophile DAP projects from boutique companies to succeed, so that the marketplace can flourish and evolve.

post #2846 of 5502

...just out of curiosity, who, here, has actually ordered a Calyx-M outside of Korea?

 

I think I saw a couple of people in Australia say they were actually buying one.

 

Anyone else?

 

I guess until a USA and a Europe-wide distributor is announced, sales won't be very numerous.

 

Any day now, we should hear some news about these distributors from D&A - if they are wise.

post #2847 of 5502
Pre-orders are open here in Singapore but the price is rather steep. Not sure if any one is really considering to pre-order, but my first impressions of the prototype sound good.
post #2848 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

...just out of curiosity, who, here, has actually ordered a Calyx-M outside of Korea?

 

Given we can't... not too many?  Unfortunately online stores that do have it as pre-order won't ship out of their territory.

post #2849 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

 

Given we can't... not too many?  Unfortunately online stores that do have it as pre-order won't ship out of their territory.

 

 

As you know, there's generally a way around such limitations, which is why I went ahead and asked, but you are finding that they've got things sewn-up pretty tight, then?

 

Oh well, won't be much longer, anyway... :beerchug:

post #2850 of 5502

I was close to pre-ordering a few weeks back, but decided to go with a DX90 instead. I just can't imagine the M sounding much better than the DX90, as its pretty sweet. If a couple people compare the M with a DX90 and find the M to be better I will probably buy one to see for myself. Currently I'm doubting it.

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