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post #2416 of 5497

Hello -

 

Does this demonstration unit include folder view and search functionality? Older demo units apparently lacked these features.

 

Thanks,

Brian

post #2417 of 5497
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Originally Posted by destrozer View Post
 


I actually tried it with the Fiio X5 (Coaxial Out) more extensively. And yes, you do lose the Native DSD playback of the AK240. 

But then again, it sounded so good already playing PCM. 


The Chord Hugo can accept DSD 24/192 over the optical in.  AK240 can output DSD over PCM if you wrap the DSD files in a flac container.  The AK240 will then not decode the DSD but output it raw over the optical line out to the Chord Hugo which will decode it.  This gets over the limits of the AK240 downsampling to 24/176 PCM if you use dsf or dff files.  This yields the best SQ for me, it seems better than the SQ from the AK240 playing DSD natively.  Proof that the Chord Hugo is receiving DSD native files are the white indicator LED.  If you try with dsf files it will show as teal on the indicator LED for 24/176 PCM.

The same trick can be used for the iBasso DX90 but I found my DoP files would pause then resume several times in a song.  The AK240 doesn't have this issue. 

This method is called DSD over PCM or DoP, you can google to find out how to convert your DSD files.

post #2418 of 5497
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The Chord Hugo can accept DSD 24/192 over the optical in.  AK240 can output DSD over PCM if you wrap the DSD files in a flac container.  The AK240 will then not decode the DSD but output it raw over the optical line out to the Chord Hugo which will decode it.  This gets over the limits of the AK240 downsampling to 24/176 PCM if you use dsf or dff files.  This yields the best SQ for me, it seems better than the SQ from the AK240 playing DSD natively.  Proof that the Chord Hugo is receiving DSD native files are the white indicator LED.  If you try with dsf files it will show as teal on the indicator LED for 24/176 PCM.
The same trick can be used for the iBasso DX90 but I found my DoP files would pause then resume several times in a song.  The AK240 doesn't have this issue. 
This method is called DSD over PCM or DoP, you can google to find out how to convert your DSD files.

Please, Can you provide an eady "step by step" ( for dummies) explanation " how to wrap the DSD files in a flac container"

Thanks
post #2419 of 5497
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Please, Can you provide an eady "step by step" ( for dummies) explanation " how to wrap the DSD files in a flac container"

Thanks


Use the guide from another forum:

 

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=119364.0

post #2420 of 5497
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Use the guide from another forum:

 

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=119364.0

thanks, I will try...

post #2421 of 5497
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From your impressions and the other ones so far, seems like this dap wont fit my preferences :( 

 

Hmm mine neither... i sense a cancellation coming on... damn.

 

Need to be patient though and wait for more impressions. Perhaps the lack of WOW is because the player sounds less artificial, more natural without details shoved in your face. Perhaps it is all there but not a great match with the IEMs used thus far. 

 

More impressions please


Edited by Sauntere - 5/2/14 at 9:27pm
post #2422 of 5497
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Hmm mine neither... i sense a cancellation coming on... damn.

Need to be patient though and wait for more impressions. Perhaps the lack of WOW is because the player sounds less artificial, more natural without details shoved in your face. Perhaps it is all there but not a great match with the IEMs used thus far. 

More impressions please

But it is usually the opposite which is more coloured and natural sounding and fun that WOW. The more neutral/artificial sounding DAP is usually the one that comes across as flat and bland and boring to most users. I am going down to Jaben SG to try it out for myself and bring my AK240 along to make an A-B comparison. Will post my feedback later.
Edited by Bluebear - 5/2/14 at 10:01pm
post #2423 of 5497
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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post
 

 

Hmm mine neither... i sense a cancellation coming on... damn.

 

Need to be patient though and wait for more impressions. Perhaps the lack of WOW is because the player sounds less artificial, more natural without details shoved in your face. Perhaps it is all there but not a great match with the IEMs used thus far. 

 

More impressions please

 

 

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But it is usually the opposite which is more coloured and natural sounding and fun that WOW. The more neutral/artificial sounding DAP is usually the one that comes across as flat and bland and boring to most users. I am going down to Jaben SG to try it out for myself and bring my AK240 along to make an A-B comparison. Will post my feedback later.

You just said if differently but that's exact the same idea as him. Except you have different opinion on what is "natural". I'm just lazy to go the city hall area now and will just wait for your impression. BTW what iem are you bringing with you?

post #2424 of 5497
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You just said if differently but that's exact the same idea as him. Except you have different opinion on what is "natural". I'm just lazy to go the city hall area now and will just wait for your impression. BTW what iem are you bringing with you?

It is not the same idea. Sauntere is saying the M does not WOW because it sounds natural. I am saying natural is what usually WOW listeners. Neutral/artificial and flat is what usually bores people. So if you read carefully, I am actually stating the opposite idea as his. Not the same idea phrased differently. Jaben SG has nearly all the TOTL IEMs/Cans for demo so I can try whatever combo is available including all JH, FitEars and the new Vision Ears X-control, HD800, TH900 and I think they still have a demo Hugo. Only issue is whether I have the time to stand there for a few hours trying out all possible combinations...
Edited by Bluebear - 5/2/14 at 10:22pm
post #2425 of 5497
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...,. I am going down to Jaben SG to try it out for myself and bring my AK240 along to make an A-B comparison. Will post my feedback later.

Great, that will be very interesting.

Please do not try only with IEM. Try also with some full Size headphone... If you have time.
Thanks
Edited by bmichels - 5/2/14 at 10:27pm
post #2426 of 5497
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

Great, that will be very interesting.

Please do not try only with IEM. Try also with some full Size headphone... If you have time.
Thanks

I doubt the M has enough burn in hours yet though.
post #2427 of 5497
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Originally Posted by Bluebear View Post


But it is usually the opposite which is more coloured and natural sounding and fun that WOW. The more neutral/artificial sounding DAP is usually the one that comes across as flat and bland and boring to most users. I am going down to Jaben SG to try it out for myself and bring my AK240 along to make an A-B comparison. Will post my feedback later.

 

Hmmm i cold take issue with your descriptions of sound there but that is not the point. Any impressions you post comparing the two player would be highly appreciated. Especially if you get the chance to spend a decent amount of time rather than just a quick listen.

 

I look forward to what you have to say. 

post #2428 of 5497
Just spent half an hour at Jaben SG trying the M with universal Roxanne. As some have mentioned before, there's a hint of warmness in the sq, so pairing with a warm sounding iems or cans might be a bit too much.
Honestly, I do prefer the sq, formsize and UI of the Sony ZX1.
Once I received my CF Roxanne (could be light years from now), I'll audition the M again and hopefully the retail version is more polished than the engineering sample
post #2429 of 5497
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Originally Posted by akhyar View Post

Just spent half an hour at Jaben SG trying the M with universal Roxanne. As some have mentioned before, there's a hint of warmness in the sq, so pairing with a warm sounding iems or cans might be a bit too much.
Honestly, I do prefer the sq, formsize and UI of the Sony ZX1.
Once I received my CF Roxanne (could be light years from now), I'll audition the M again and hopefully the retail version is more polished than the engineering sample

 

Isn't the Roxanne considered a little warm and thick anyway ?  The Sony is airy and bright so i can understand your preference.

post #2430 of 5497
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Originally Posted by akhyar View Post

Just spent half an hour at Jaben SG trying the M with universal Roxanne. As some have mentioned before, there's a hint of warmness in the sq, so pairing with a warm sounding iems or cans might be a bit too much.
Honestly, I do prefer the sq, formsize and UI of the Sony ZX1.
Once I received my CF Roxanne (could be light years from now), I'll audition the M again and hopefully the retail version is more polished than the engineering sample

 

Thanks for your pre-view.  I will be interested if you could explain on the UI that you like less than the ZX1's UI.  Indeed, for me the M UI was one very strong point.  Isn't it finally that good ?  lag ? 

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