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post #2326 of 5502
It's still looking good and well built, if the UI performance is good and the sq amazing, it will be a dap to own. One can easily live with its quirks.

post #2327 of 5502

Keep in mind the video are very old.

 

That said the video makes it pretty clear that the magnet is strong and won't pop off or slide without deliberate force.

 

I just hope that they include blanks for the door-less memory slots.

post #2328 of 5502
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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post

It's still looking good and well built, if the UI performance is good and the sq amazing, it will be a dap to own. One can easily live with its quirks.
 

 

The "looking well built" part I can agree, looking good is relative for me especially after their first rendition.

 

I hope the SQ can elevate my interest to the previous levels. Great UI is just the side dish for me since I have been living with the AK100 UI for quite a long time.

The other things Calyx have to watch out is the little problems plaguing Fiio & Ibasso on ther initial launch, like volume control quirks, SD card scanning problems etc.

post #2329 of 5502
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteZero View Post

The "looking well built" part I can agree, looking good is relative for me especially after their first rendition.

I hope the SQ can elevate my interest to the previous levels. Great UI is just the side dish for me since I have been living with the AK100 UI for quite a long time.
The other things Calyx have to watch out is the little problems plaguing Fiio & Ibasso on ther initial launch, like volume control quirks, SD card scanning problems etc.

Totally agree with you, I was thinking more about the hardware design issues (if they truly are) but if it works flawlessly without scanning and playback issues, it'll be very attractive.
post #2330 of 5502

Unlike those two the M has been in development and shown at trade shows for a long time now.  I get the feeling Calyx isn't rushing.  I believe the feature set even got trimmed late presumably because they weren't happy with their performance.

 

It's not exactly the player I would have built but if it works as advertised on launch... it'll have done more than the others ;)

post #2331 of 5502
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Unlike those two the M has been in development and shown at trade shows for a long time now.  I get the feeling Calyx isn't rushing.  I believe the feature set even got trimmed late presumably because they weren't happy with their performance.

 

It's not exactly the player I would have built but if it works as advertised on launch... it'll have done more than the others ;)


Yes, but Calyx M is their first soon to be mass produced DAP (CMIIW).

This will be a test of their QC regardless of how long they have been in development. I think their slow approach to the market is to avoid cases that Fiio & Ibasso has suffered, which is releasing it too early to a huge portion of the market.

 

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Totally agree with you, I was thinking more about the hardware design issues (if they truly are) but if it works flawlessly without scanning and playback issues, it'll be very attractive.

 

This is a major thing that I want in the DAP. The AK100 did it for me, the DX50 & X3 failed it for the first time I demoed them.

I feel somehow that the Korean made DAPs are handled more carefully so I'm looking forward to it.

post #2332 of 5502
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteZero View Post

The "looking well built" part I can agree, looking good is relative for me especially after their first rendition.

I hope the SQ can elevate my interest to the previous levels. Great UI is just the side dish for me since I have been living with the AK100 UI for quite a long time.
The other things Calyx have to watch out is the little problems plaguing Fiio & Ibasso on ther initial launch, like volume control quirks, SD card scanning problems etc.

It does look more chubby and blocky than I envisioned from the early renders but at the same time a bigger casing will provide more space for the analog components which could mean better sound. The game of DAP is always about compromises between sq, size, battery life, design, features, UI and price.... can't have them all frown.gif

M at least provide another set of compromises that may or may not work for any of us and choices are good.

Re "db scan issues", it might be more fair to say "data/tags issues" as 99% of these issues are due to how the music are tagged. Albums/tracks that works for my AK tends to work for my ibassos or Sony's or hifiman and vice versa. Of course it would be good to have DAP that is more lenient with tagging or have better error/exception handling logic but then again cost/price comes in....
post #2333 of 5502

Getting close to cracking on another device. Hope some reviews of the M come through soon.

 

Will this player really be good enough as a portable and good enough to render a digital out to my desktop DAC useless?

 

Like some others have mentioned, digital out would have made it an instant buy for me. But now it is similarly priced to AK120, which has similar storage, smaller, works well with IEM's and can be used as a transport. Three times as expensive as the X5 or DX90 which have slightly less functionality for my purposes (based on Australian prices).

post #2334 of 5502
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Originally Posted by likearake View Post
 

Getting close to cracking on another device. Hope some reviews of the M come through soon.

 

Will this player really be good enough as a portable and good enough to render a digital out to my desktop DAC useless?

 

Like some others have mentioned, digital out would have made it an instant buy for me. But now it is similarly priced to AK120, which has similar storage, smaller, works well with IEM's and can be used as a transport. Three times as expensive as the X5 or DX90 which have slightly less functionality for my purposes (based on Australian prices).

 

I'm also hoping that the DAC section of the M will be comparable in SQ to that of Desktop DAC's around the same price range.

post #2335 of 5502
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post #2336 of 5502
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post
 

 

I'm also hoping that the DAC section of the M will be comparable in SQ to that of Desktop DAC's around the same price range.

 

Your dreaming buddy! Desktop Dacs in the 1K price range include the likes of the Audiolab M-Dac which would no doubt be a few steps above the Calyx M. The Calyx M is going to be using a fairly simple implementation (due to size limit of a Dap) of the mobile variant dac ESS9018K2M. While home Dacs will be using full size implementations of the full size dac ESS9018. So while the Calyx M will probably sound great, it isn't feasible for it to be as good as an equally well implemented Desktop Dac.

post #2337 of 5502
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Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
 

 

Your dreaming buddy! Desktop Dacs in the 1K price range include the likes of the Audiolab M-Dac which would no doubt be a few steps above the Calyx M. The Calyx M is going to be using a fairly simple implementation (due to size limit of a Dap) of the mobile variant dac ESS9018K2M. While home Dacs will be using full size implementations of the full size dac ESS9018. So while the Calyx M will probably sound great, it isn't feasible for it to be as good as an equally well implemented Desktop Dac.

DX100 uses the ESS9018 and it's a DAP and it's under 1K.

post #2338 of 5502
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DX100 uses the ESS9018 and it's a DAP and it's under 1K.

 

Yes, but as I mentioned, a Dap cannot implement a Dac in the most suitable way to due to size constraints, and implementation makes up more of the sound than the Dac chip itself. Desktop Dacs and Amps will always be better than portable Dacs and Amps, assuming both are engineered to the same level under current technology.


Edited by T.R.A.N.C.E. - 4/28/14 at 7:53am
post #2339 of 5502
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

DX100 uses the ESS9018 and it's a DAP and it's under 1K.

 

It uses the ESS9018K2M which is specifically designed for mobile devices - not a full desktop DAC.

post #2340 of 5502
No, the DX100 does use the desktop grade ES9018. The DX90 uses the mobile version.
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Edited by the wizard of oz - 4/28/14 at 8:25am
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