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post #2311 of 5495
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Originally Posted by piercer View Post
 

 

Unlikely - I can'r imagine they overlooked any kind of effect from that.

 

Yeah, you are right. I would have thought so too.


Edited by Sauntere - 4/26/14 at 5:13am
post #2312 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

Do we know for sure that the revised case doesn't have wings for lack of a better word and ride along a rail?  Or if still a loose magnet... how strong.  Fridge magnet, hard drive magnet?  Guess in the end it comes down to how hard it is to get it off.

 

I think the idea behind the "custom detachable magnetic volume slider (CDMVS)" is that you can take it off so that the volume can't change in your pocket. Which is a dumb idea from Calyx as you will probably lose it! Calyx should just have used the tried and proven volume buttons with an additional lock button. Calyx was trying to be different and fancy/new, probably thinking it would impress people, essentially a gimmick.

 

Calyx M new spec addition "Advanced CDMVS Control". Sounds cool right? Sounds like something Sony would advertise :D But Calyx beat them to it this time :P

 

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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post
 

Hmmmm, Is it possible the magnet could upset the electronics ?

 

I doubt it, its a very small magnet, radio interference from phones/radio/tv would be a bigger problem than that small magnet.


Edited by T.R.A.N.C.E. - 4/26/14 at 5:20am
post #2313 of 5495
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Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post
 

 

Oh come on, you are being harsh now, we get 99% of each song :D    

 

lol you need to go read the whole thread again and see what is "harsh" re his opinions for the M on various stages of its development.  Not that I disagree with him but that's just him being him..... :D

 

btw I got 100% of all album on my 2 64gb and a 128gb card playing without issue on my dx90 (and AK240).  I have had that VBR tracks not playing thru issues with AK100 and AK120 before, and the 2 second fading in PITA on hm901.  I got around the AK issue by ripping the vbr tracks into FLAC again.  No fix or workaround yet for the 901.  So far so good on DX90 and hope the few guys who had issue can have it fixed by doing the db rescan.

post #2314 of 5495
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Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
 

 

~~I think the idea behind the "custom detachable magnetic volume slider (CDMVS)" is that you can take it off so that the volume can't change in your pocket.

 

Wow, so many awards to give out - this one for silliest idea in thread 2014.  :-)

 

No - you are not supposed to remove it when you put it in your pocket. They are just showing off in the video.

post #2315 of 5495
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

Wow, so many awards to give out - this one for silliest idea in thread 2014.  :-)

 

No - you are not supposed to remove it when you put it in your pocket. They are just showing off in the video.

 

With the exposed head, it might come off while in your pocket. Or worse, it comes off flying away while you take it out of your pocket if it gets caught into something.

post #2316 of 5495
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Originally Posted by headwhacker View Post
 

 

With the exposed head, it might come off while in your pocket. Or worse, it comes off flying away while you take it out of your pocket if it gets caught into something.

 

That was not my point at all.

 

Nonetheless you grabbed the opportunity to make another gratuitous swipe at a feature that you (and I) (and everyone else in this thread) have not experienced. I guess that you could not resist.

 

In my view, the criticism of the Calyx's volume control has become a complete circle jerk. None of you has any hands-on experience to actually know what you are talking about but because everyone is agreeing with each other, it's an orgy of certainty.

 

Just my two cents.  :-)

post #2317 of 5495
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

That was not my point at all.

 

Nonetheless you grabbed the opportunity to make another gratuitous swipe at a feature that you (and I) (and everyone else in this thread) have not experienced. I guess that you could not resist.

 

In my view, the criticism of the Calyx's volume control has become a complete circle jerk.

 

Yeah, maybe. I'm not too blinkered to acknowledge that POV or your right to state it, and I have no objection to you challenging me and others on the issue. I don't take it personally, and I understand where you're coming from..

 

...but 'circle jerk' or not, it doesn't alter the potential truth of the foolishness of the slider control.

 

If Calyx were more forthcoming about various details, during the run-up to the release, and (much more importantly) if they bothered to bite-the-bullet and actually engage with the discussion here on Head-fi (yes, I know there would be MOT/Sponsor hurdles for them to satisfy/jump through, first) then perhaps there would be more forward-motion to the thread, rather than many of us chewing whatever cud already exists to chew.

 

 

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

None of you has any hands-on experience to actually know what you are talking about but because everyone is agreeing with each other, it's an orgy of certainty.

 

I understand your frustration with the repeated criticism (genuinely, I do), especially since no one, here on Head-fi, has yet tried it for real (*especially within a pocket, whilst walking out-&-about around town, which is a usage scenario almost no one outside of the D&A devp't team, even in Korea, has yet reported doing) and furthermore, I realise I am probably Number 1 in your list of objectionable contributors in this regard, but my experience of volume sliders on cheap cassette walkmans in the mid-1980s has left me justifiably skeptical about (and wary of) them, and adding a magnet doesn't placate my concerns one iota.

 

You also appear to be forgetting that the volume slider is not just about personal taste - there are other aspects to consider, such as usability for those who lack fine motor control or dexterity.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/687944/999-calyx-m-with-dxd-dsd-64gb-sd-sd-storage/1515#post_10330039

 

Volume sliders on DAPs are not rare because they are difficult to implement - they are rare because they are an inferior solution, ergonomically-speaking, on several counts.

 

 

 

But, each to their own... there's no changing it now (well not for this production run, anyway).

 

 

We'll soon find out if the slider is justified.

 

D&A have made their bed and now they will have to lie in it.

 

 

Anyone for some popcorn?

 

              :popcorn: 


Edited by Mython - 4/26/14 at 11:34am
post #2318 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

Anyone for some popcorn?

 

              :popcorn: 

I will take 2 please, salty ones :happy_face1:

post #2319 of 5495
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

That was not my point at all.

 

Nonetheless you grabbed the opportunity to make another gratuitous swipe at a feature that you (and I) (and everyone else in this thread) have not experienced. I guess that you could not resist.

 

In my view, the criticism of the Calyx's volume control has become a complete circle jerk. None of you has any hands-on experience to actually know what you are talking about but because everyone is agreeing with each other, it's an orgy of certainty.

 

Just my two cents.  :-)

 

We are all waiting until it finally comes out. Aren't we? But until then it's free to speculate how the volume slider would actually turn up. I think those speculations were not just pulled out of thin air. There is merit to it because people have experience with similar control.

 

The fact that it is removable is what worries me. I have a few pocket devices with small detachable parts that goes off flying when I take it out of my pocket. (No matter how careful I am, sooner or later it will get caught into something). Sorry if you feel that the criticism sounds like Calyx bashing. If I am going to buy this DAP when it comes out I would hate to lose that slider. It should be a 1 week or 2 away from getting hold of a demo from a local distro.

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DELETE


Edited by Mython - 4/26/14 at 1:49pm
post #2321 of 5495

Mython, neither you nor headwacker are close to the level of evil necessary to get on my list. Sorry to disappoint on that count.  :-)

post #2322 of 5495
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

Wow, so many awards to give out - this one for silliest idea in thread 2014.  :-)

 

No - you are not supposed to remove it when you put it in your pocket. They are just showing off in the video.

 

Ok genius, you tell us why its removable and magnetic? Its obviously removable for a reason, otherwise they would have put it on rails and made it a normal non magnetic slider. In the video from Calyx he clearly demonstrates the point that you can't adjust the volume with it removed... Thus a feature, unless having pointless removable bits is now considered cool...

post #2323 of 5495
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Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
 

 

Ok genius, you tell us why its removable and magnetic? Its obviously removable for a reason, otherwise they would have put it on rails and made it a normal non magnetic slider. In the video from Calyx he clearly demonstrates the point that you can't adjust the volume with it removed... Thus a feature, unless having pointless removable bits is now considered cool...

 

You are serious? Wow.

 

It means no groove, no place for dust to get in, a distinguishing factor, and it is potentially cool in the eyes of some (including my eyes and I suspect many outside this thread).

 

If Calyx intended that people take the volume control off just to put the M in their pocket, they would have to provide everyone with about twenty replacements. You can't really think that they engaged in that level of design fail... but apparently you do.

post #2324 of 5495
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

You are serious? Wow.

 

It means no groove, no place for dust to get in, a distinguishing factor, and it is potentially cool in the eyes of some (including my eyes and I suspect many outside this thread).

 

If Calyx intended that people take the volume control off just to put the M in their pocket, they would have to provide everyone with about twenty replacements. You can't really think that they engaged in that level of design fail... but apparently you do.

 

So no dust and its cool are valid reasons for a CMDVS? Pfft, regular buttons have no dust problem either. I still think its a design fail and classifies as a pointless removable bit, and if it took up space that could have been put towards an actual useful feature like line out then its even worse. Gimmicks aside It will come down to how it sounds in the end.


Edited by T.R.A.N.C.E. - 4/26/14 at 10:47pm
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To be honest after seeing the latest rendition and videos from the Calyx M , I am losing my interest rapidly.

 

I will demo these in the future and decide whether it is able to dislodge the AK100 I currently have.

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