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post #2281 of 5502

thanks dude!

post #2282 of 5502
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Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
 

 

oh, thats suuuuper lame :confused_face_2:

Not really, the ESS DAC's digital volume control maintains high SNR, unlike the typical digital volume control we are thinking of.  I believe this is the reason why you can adjust of the volume of DX90's line-out.


Edited by SilverEars - 4/24/14 at 5:58pm
post #2283 of 5502

Digital volume is only an issue in high gain systems where you have to run really low in the range.  Even then the 9018 runs internally at 32bit, trimming even 30dB or 5bit is nothing.  The Calyx as far as I can tell runs at unity gain.  Shouldn't have to run at 5/100 or something silly like that.  On the DX90 however use the lowest gain you can get away with it or you are throwing away bits for no good reason.

post #2284 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

This is beginning to sound like a broken record. Move on.. please. 

 

 

Agreed, but with many newcomers coming to the thread not bothering to read all the earlier discussion, some repetition is, unfortunately, unavoidable.

post #2285 of 5502

This particular feature actually doesn't bother me, one way or the other, but since I know loads & loads of Head-fiers crave it, with every new DAP, and dislike it not functioning perfectly on many DAPs, I am sure the following will be of interest to some (and I'm confident the function will operate 100% correctly on the Calyx-M):

 

 

post #2286 of 5502

I think gapless is essential (I'm a huge Frank Zappa fan, just as an example, and as other fans will know an awful lot of his stuff is segued) and, really, it should be basic standard on all DAPs these days.

 

BUT, will it actually work?

 

Your confidence in Calyx is inspiring, but plenty of players over the last few years from companies who should have got the hang of it by that point have been released with gapless playback as a so-say feature out of the box, but it has never worked properly, if at all (the Cowon X7 is a classic example).  Yet it's been a basic feature of Rockbox for nearly a decade.

 

I hope Calyx do get it right.  Fingers crossed.

 

I'm also hoping that, with the huge amount of storage capability (and, one hopes, expandable beyond that with firmware upgrades) we won't have a repeat of Fiio's file limit issue.

 

Still also waiting for some (ANY) word on/confirmation of a Europe/UK release...

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Still also waiting for some (ANY) word on/confirmation of a Europe/UK release...

 

Maybe they will sell to Europe direct from Korea?

post #2288 of 5502

I was hoping there was so more actual info on this thing, but no. Just the same bleh, boo-hoo from the same few people........... :mad:

 

I'll add my own bleh to the mix too then. I'm worried with their lack luster CPU they won't optimize the software enough to even get proper gapless playback with some formats (ok. I'm done :tongue: )


Edited by D3Seeker - 4/25/14 at 11:08am
post #2289 of 5502
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Originally Posted by D3Seeker View Post
 

I was hoping there was so more actual info on this thing, but no. Just the same bleh, boo-hoo from the same few people........... :mad:

 

I'll add my own bleh to the mix too then. I'm worried with their lack luster CPU they won't optimize the software enough to even get proper gapless playback with some formats (ok. I'm done :tongue: )

 

 

Yes, we all know it's repetitive, but with new people arriving to the thread, not bothering to read any of the previous discussion, and sod-all proper new information from D&A, it's hardly surprising, and I make no apologies.

 

 

But I enjoyed your 'bleh', so thanks for chiming-in :tongue:

 

 

 

Joking aside, I'm taking solace from the fact that the thread should get a shot-in-the-arm within just 2-3 weeks, as this DAP finally hits the market and gets into people's hands.

 

 

 

Regarding your misgivings over the lacklustre CPU, do you remember the video D&A posted on their Facebook page, showing the interface being used? It did seem a little 'reluctant' to respond to some of the finger-swipes. I couldn't ascertain if that was due to slow CPU, inefficient firmware, or poor touchscreen sensitivity - my gut reaction was that it was more likely the latter, but I have to admit that that is unlikely, in light of the fact that capacitive touchscreens are pretty good these days and D&A have little reason to specify a low-grade touch panel.   I dunno.   I'm not sure what to think.    I guess we'll all know very soon.

 

 

I've been watching the DX90 threads closely, and I'm very disappointed (and incredulous) to see how the player is miserably failing to do something as simple and basic as play a track to its full duration - I mean, what the H were iBasso thinking?? Absolutely inexcusable, especially since the firmware is 95% culled from the DX50, which has been in existence for many months. That's enough to stop me buying a DX90, in spite of the reported excellent sound quality.

 

What will the Calyx-M bring to the table? I dunno.  My confidence in the M firmware (AKA 'M:USE') stems from the fact that D&A seem to have been quite 'obsessive' about the software feature set, with substantial attention to detail and usability. I hope my confidence is not misplaced, but, in spite of my vocal criticism over certain hardware design decisions, I remain optimistic about the firmware.

 

Is anyone here genuinely just waiting to hit the 'buy' button as soon as it is released? :regular_smile :

 

 

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BTW, FWIW, I noticed that a couple of the facebook videos have been re-posted, by a 3rd party, on Youtube, so I can embed them here:

 

 

(older volume slider but still same principle):

post #2291 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

 

 

I've been watching the DX90 threads closely, and I'm very disappointed (and incredulous) to see how the player is miserably failing to do something as simple and basic as play a track to its full duration - I mean, what the H were iBasso thinking?? Absolutely inexcusable

 

 

 

Oh come on, you are being harsh now, we get 99% of each song :D    

post #2292 of 5502
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Oh come on, you are being harsh now, we get 99% of each song :D    

 

 

Hey, I actually want to like the DX90 (it is lightweight [140g], unlike X5 and Calyx-M), but jeez... how basic is it to just play a track fully without cutting off 2-3 seconds of the beginning or end?

 

If iBasso get this stupid fault sorted, I may buy a DX90, but as it is, it's a disgrace :confused_face:

 

Calyx-M is still interesting to me, but the jump from the originally-suggested 160g to the production 230g makes it a bit less appealing to me, because I always use my DAPs in my pocket. I'm watching DX90 and Calyx-M threads closely and have yet to make a decision.

 

 

I'm also still wondering when a British hi-fi maker is going to enter the DAP market. It's highly-specialised, what with the interface and firmware requirements, but I still feel it will happen sooner or later that a very decent-sounding British DAP will appear. It's anyone's guess whether that might end up being Chord (who are, thus far, reluctant), Naim, Meridian, etc. The more familiar they become with making network players, the closer they will be to transferring many of those skills to DAP manufacture...

 

The Chinese and (especially) the Koreans seem to be well ahead of the DAP-making curve, given their enormous consumer electronics manufacturing base, but their dominance in the audiophile DAP sector won't (can't) last forever.

 

 

 

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Edited by Mython - 4/25/14 at 3:34pm
post #2293 of 5502
Mython, not all report the cutting off. I have never missed beginning and only some albums don't have two seconds of silence at end. But as you say, it's just not logical to release with this. But sound is Very good.

Naim gave notice of a wireless speaker yesterday so maybe one day. Cambridge audio would be my best hope. Audiolab would have been in the frame if they had stayed under local control.
post #2294 of 5502
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Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post

Mython, not all report the cutting off.

 

In a way, I find the inconsistency of concern, in itself. Why should one DX90 be different from another? (I'm guessing it's actually a difference in file/tag format/integrity, but still, iBasso need to sort it FAST, instead of the wall of silence thus far reported by complainants).

 

 

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Naim gave notice of a wireless speaker yesterday so maybe one day. Cambridge audio would be my best hope. Audiolab would have been in the frame if they had stayed under local control.

 

I'm also interested to see what the specs will be for D&A's non-flagship Calyx DAP, which they've apparently admitted to, but not yet elaborated upon.

 

 

As for Audiolab - have they been bought-out by a Chinese company or similar?

 

 

Cambridge Audio are an interesting suggestion, thanks. I believe they're owned by the Richer Group (a consortium [I think] involving Julian Richer, of Richer Sounds). I seem to recall that they have a foot in China and in the UK, so-to-speak, so I suppose they could bring a DAP to market.

 

The Americans (Ayre Acoustics) are, of course, involved in Neil Young's PONO DAP/ecosystem project, and we all know how massively successful Apple's iPod (& iTunes ecosystem) has been, so there's undoubtedly money to be made, as the public gradually wake-up to the potential enjoyment of audiophile-quality sound reproduction on-the-move.    I should add that I'm not being jingoistic when I speak of my desire to see a British DAP - it's only from the perspective that there is a strong history of top quality audiophile equipment originating from the UK, so it'd be nice to see some of that heritage make its way into the DAP marketplace. Let's face it, who could have foreseen Chord creating the Hugo? Meridian's foray into headphone DAC-Amp territory was also relatively unexpected to many (including me), and I'm sure Chord will be building upon the Hugo's success before very long (not necessarily a DAP, though).

 

 

 

I can't wait to see some British-Korean DAP smackdown action :wink:

 

The more the merrier!

 

But, until then, I'm eager as heck to somehow get a listen to the Calyx-M. I wonder if D&A might consider attending some European hi-fi shows &/or head-fi meets, like iRiver do?

 

 

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Edited by Mython - 4/25/14 at 5:35pm
post #2295 of 5502

If it makes you feel better the AK100 cuts off the last 2 seconds on dBpoweramp encoded vbr mp3 files.  FLAC fine, CBR mp3 fine... VBR mp3 not so much.

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