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post #2266 of 5495

I see your point, but what good is a volume control that only works when the screen is unlocked ?

 

The whole point of hardware controls is to be able to operate them whilst the device is in one's pocket, rather than having to pull it out of your pocket every time you need to operate it.

post #2267 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

I see your point, but what good is a volume control that only works when the screen is unlocked ?

 

The whole point of hardware controls is to be able to operate them whilst the device is in one's pocket, rather than having to pull it out of your pocket every time you need to operate it.

 

 

 

 

 

The irony of this is that D&A could have put a button directly on the opposite side of the chassis, that served no function of its own, but which one would have to press simultaneously with the slider in order for the slider to function. That would have been a safety feature that would alleviate most of my concerns about the slider  (even then, I would still say that ordinary volume buttons are a better solution, though)

post #2268 of 5495

Here I thought the point was to have a physical means of controlling the volume.  That said, a slider is ton easier to manipulate in a pocket than a dial.  I personally couldn't care less about volume control while pocketed, bag in my case.  I set the volume when I buy my DAP and really only verify that it hasn't changed on a day to day basis.

post #2269 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

I personally couldn't care less about volume control while pocketed, bag in my case.

 

People who carry their DAP in a bag may just as well carry a stack, and there are hundreds of possible combinations of different gear one can stack.

 

My discussion of the Calyx-M is legitimately as a pocket device.

 

 

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I set the volume when I buy my DAP and really only verify that it hasn't changed on a day to day basis.

 

Do you think you are in the majority or the minority with this approach to volume control?

post #2270 of 5495

I agree that a sliding analogue volume control in the 21st century IS ridiculous, especially as from the photos on the website it looks like it stands slightly proud of the body (one would have thought having it recessed was a far more sensible idea, if they were that dead set on a sliding control), but I'm hoping any relating issues of it being accidentally adjusted would be resolved by a case.  Hoping.

 

I suppose it also depends on how resistive the slide is, and whether or not the smaller round buttons underneath it might have a dual purpose when the screen is locked (a la most Cowons) - that would get round it.

 

I agree with Solude's point, though - speaking for myself, I have two volume settings - one for listening through my car's audio system and one for when I listen with 'phones.  Other than that, I rarely adjust the volume and I never have it so loud that a particularly loud master (most of Prince's albums since the early 00s for example) would require me scrambling to turn it down in a hurry, so it being locked out when the player is locked wouldn't bother me too much.

 

For me personally it's an annoyance rather than a major problem and far from a deal breaker, but it nevertheless seems like a hell of a schoolboy error.

post #2271 of 5495
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People who carry their DAP in a bag may just as well carry a stack, and there are hundreds of possible combinations of different gear one can stack.

 

Stack is too thick.  The bag is after all for the other stuff I bring to work, not the dap.  At the office and home it's on my desk so another non issue for me.  I would add that there are a lot of thing I need/care about in a dap that aren't in the majority but then I tend to buy things for myself not others :P


Edited by Solude - 4/24/14 at 5:53am
post #2272 of 5495

Look at the up side, at least the slider hopefully means the volume control is analogue on the M. While on most other daps its DAC controlled digital volume, meaning the lower the volume the lower the resolution the DAC.

post #2273 of 5495
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Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
 

Look at the up side, at least the slider hopefully means the volume control is analogue on the M. While on most other daps its DAC controlled digital volume, meaning the lower the volume the lower the resolution the DAC.

 

 

It's digital, with 'analogue feel'.

post #2274 of 5495
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It's digital, with 'analogue feel'.

 

oh, thats suuuuper lame :confused_face_2:

post #2275 of 5495
I don't know but the latest rendition if it's final version looks ugly to me. It just lost the wow factor and the more elegant look of the original rendition. Why did they choose the copper color for the surrounding rim? The exposed volume slider is ugly, Makes it easy to accidentally slide.
post #2276 of 5495

Well, I'm moving from the AK100 MkII to potentially the Calyx M. I struggled with the AK100 for more than a month (despite having a great sound) with two units and decided to return the AK100 back to ALO Audio during my second 30-day trial period.  I'm interested in the Calyx M and have been following this thread for a few weeks (so thanks for the comments). I spoke to Chris Zainea at Onsongs (who I think will be the US distributor) yesterday and he said that the Calyx M should be available mid-May.

 
Back to my old iPod in the interim...
post #2277 of 5495
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Originally Posted by headwhacker View Post

I don't know but the latest rendition if it's final version looks ugly to me. It just lost the wow factor and the more elegant look of the original rendition. Why did they choose the copper color for the surrounding rim? The exposed volume slider is ugly, Makes it easy to accidentally slide.

I have to agree with this. They should've also placed the buttons underneath the volume slider on the other side and made it protrude like the original version. 

post #2278 of 5495
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They should've also placed the buttons underneath the volume slider on the other side and made it protrude like the original version. 

 

 

No they shouldn't.

 

 

That's the same schoolboy ergonomics error that Samsung made with the GS2, Cowon with the J3, and iBasso with the DX100.

 

You should never have buttons on opposing sides of the chassis, since, in most instances, you need to squeeze the device in order to successfully press a button, and all that ends up happening is that you accidentally squeeze one of the opposing buttons that you don't want to press, whilst you are squeezing the one you do want to press.

 

Having owned a GS2, J3, and a DX100, I can assure you this isn't just theory - it's a real-life PITA!

 

 

I think the slider on the Calyx-M is a juvenile idea that has no legitimate place on a high-end pocket DAP, but I give Calyx credit for at least being sensible about keeping all the buttons on one side of the chassis, to avoid the aforementioned accidental button presses.

 

 

However, I will agree with you that the buttons should protrude :beerchug: 

 

If you take the time to read this thread, you'll see this has been discussed many times.

 

 

 

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Edited by Mython - 4/24/14 at 1:35pm
post #2279 of 5495

This is beginning to sound like a broken record. Move on.. please. 

post #2280 of 5495
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

No they shouldn't.

 

 

That's the same schoolboy ergonomics error that Samsung made with the GS2, Cowon with the J3, and iBasso with the DX100.

 

You should never have buttons on opposing sides of the chassis, since, in most instances, you need to squeeze the device in order to successfully press a button, and all that ends up happening is that you accidentally squeeze one of the opposing buttons that you don't want to press, whilst you are squeezing the one you do want to press.

 

Having owned a GS2, J3, and a DX100, I can assure you this isn't just theory - it's a real-life PITA!

 

 

I think the slider on the Calyx-M is a juvenile idea that has no legitimate place on a high-end pocket DAP, but I give Calyx credit for at least being sensible about keeping all the buttons on one side of the chassis, to avoid the aforementioned accidental button presses.

 

 

However, I will agree with you that the buttons should protrude :beerchug: 

 

If you take the time to read this thread, you'll see this has been discussed many times.

 

 

 

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Well, while the Calyx M has different dimensions it's overall shape is similar to that of the iPhone.

 

When I use the volume buttons on my iPhone 5, I place my thumb on the top right corner and adjust the volume with my index finger. The only place where the device is squeezed is the top right corner where my thumb lies and about 1/3 of the bottom part which rest against my palm. 

 

With the Calyx M, holding it in this position would allow me to comfortably adjust the volume slider with my thumb and the buttons on the other side with my index finger. Accidentally changing the volume while pressing the one of the buttons on the opposite side would be very unlikely.
With the current design, I would have to adjust the way I hold the device in order for my thumb to reach the buttons underneath the volume slider.

 

This is just my personal preference how I would hold the device.

I guess we'll just have to try it ourselves once it's released to see how user-friendly it's ergonomics are. 


Edited by aLm0sT - 4/24/14 at 1:56pm
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