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Originally Posted by hellGeeea View Post

 

. . . I just started my age of 40s  this year.

 

Happy birthday! :bigsmile_face: (Oh, and thanks for your contributions. . . . :cool:)

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Edited by Mython - 4/1/14 at 3:59pm
post #1983 of 5496
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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post
 

 That is because of size, it still looks like a sizeable player to carry around. I think the other more affordable one will be the portable one similar to iBasso DX100 (reference) and DX50/90 (affordable) offerings. They are mirroring each other strategy. iBasso has been very successful in introducing a reference player and then a slimmer portable version and they want to capture a similar market. You just have to remember that Kia motors was not well know some years ago, now they produce cars that are as good if not better than the Japanese so I am thinking that they are also getting very good in electronics and might surpass other nations.

Well... I agree with the size...

I even mentioned as I would get AK100 for my biking to the person of Calyx, then he told me of that smaller player... (I didn't know/or forgot it was posted on their facebook.

My main concern is focused on getting superb sound( thinking of wearing Shure's SRH-1540 when I walk around), and that is why I'm so psyched up for Calyx M.

 

Your explanation of comparison to the car industry makes perfect sense to explain what is going on... 

Just by hearing that... I think Sony's ZX-1 is more focused on majority people who want convenient features...

It's a different story to someone like me who carries i-phone, a full size laptop and expecting to match w/ SRH-1540...

Smaller market for different use, I think.


Edited by hellGeeea - 3/30/14 at 5:02pm
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I find it quite intriguing that A&D are already looking to release a smaller player, before their flagship has even been released.

 

I'm not criticising them for this - I just find it an intriguing strategy.

post #1985 of 5496
Mython, I think the opposite: if the internal DAC is so good as they claim (95% of Femto), why bother using an external DAC? Just remove the digital out at all and reduce some cost and valuable space. If the person needs a media server to connect to an even better external DAC (think Femto price up!), then wait for the rack version which will be more complete for that use. Probably it will feature different digital out connections (RCA, AES-EBU, etc), much larger capacity (Terabytes), remote control?, etc. For DACs below Femto level, the internal M should be better... and that is exciting.

Again different units best adapted to different needs.
post #1986 of 5496

I'm going to withdraw from the digital-out discussion for now, as it has been discussed at length, at various times earlier in this thread. If you care to look, you'll see a lot of discussion.

 

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No, of course not - you know I've been around long enough to know the differences. I was merely making the point that those of us who expect a digital-out on an audiophile player should not be viewed as being unreasonable - if a D-O can be engineered on a $239 DAP and a $350 DAP (and the iPhone and NW-ZX1 you yourself mentioned), then I do not feel the exclusion of a D-O on the $1000 M is justified, no matter how smug A&D are feeling with themselves, about their internal ES9018K2M implementation.

Thanks Mython for pointing out this.

My heart is leaning more towards DX90 as its cheaper and spec seems to be as good...and having features that are more relevant to me.

Anyway, hope to audition both as soon as possible...
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I agree, the features of M are what they are and complaining will not change them. If the M's features don't suit some peoples' needs, cool, just buy another DAP. For others looking for a flagship DAP with a reference DAC then M deserves a listen. There is logic in their decision even if some don't agree. Let's just drop this and move forward. smily_headphones1.gif
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I find their refusal to allow a comparison with other DAPs ridiculous. Even AK with their rubbish services doesn't do that.
Not a fan of their management/marketing style..
post #1990 of 5496
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

Thanks Mython for pointing out this.

My heart is leaning more towards DX90 as its cheaper and spec seems to be as good...and having features that are more relevant to me.

Anyway, hope to audition both as soon as possible...

Yes George, given ibasso's success with ess9018 on dx100 and experience in the dx50 firmware/form factor, and it feature dual 9018k2m, and the relative cheap price, I can jump blind to order first batch dx90 whenever it hits their shopping site.

With the $999 M, a first time DAP produced by a boutique maker without any track record or experience in this segment, but with sound they claim to be better than the industry's best, and with a first iteration self developed UI that they claim to rival iOS or Android, but without any demo tour or comparison reviews from established/trusted source, it is hard to just take a big leap of faith (with or without $150, $250, or heck $500 discount)..... saying Calyx folks are a confident bunch is massive understatement. Maybe they just expect the rest of the DAP enthusiast world to be as confident for their baby as they are.... biggrin.gif
Edited by kkcc - 3/30/14 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by JonathanCandel View Post


Thanks, and quite interesting...

New model with more features and terabytes of storage... Hardly the best introduction punchline when M is about to come out... smily_headphones1.gif
Now I am not sure but marketingwise, if there will be another player with these kind of specs, I totally understand them for taking it off their page. It does however put my mind in the situation of knowing that it is possible that the Calyx M will have a successor in a short period of time.
Purely speculating of course. smily_headphones1.gif

They said desktop. I wouldn't count on that being portable.

 

Oops, see it's been covered.


Edited by goodvibes - 3/30/14 at 5:26pm
post #1992 of 5496
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Originally Posted by Matias View Post

I agree, the features of M are what they are and complaining will not change them. If the M's features don't suit some peoples' needs, cool, just buy another DAP. For others looking for a flagship DAP with a reference DAC then M deserves a listen. There is logic in their decision even if some don't agree. Let's just drop this and move forward. smily_headphones1.gif

Exactly... I wonder if someone has their favorite player,why don't they stick around that specific one...

 

Clueless to come to some player board which they don't like and pick on... it just seems to me that some people just pick on things w/o solutions...

 

Let's be positive on our lives...


Edited by hellGeeea - 3/30/14 at 5:28pm
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Only one way to find out when that first production device gets into the hands of an early adaptor and give enough unbiased impression. Then we can validate their claims.

 

But they better do it soon. As DX90 approaches, for some people looking at both devices, the deciding factor could be whichever device draws first blood and get a reliable impressions.

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Originally Posted by Matias View Post

Mython, I think the opposite: if the internal DAC is so good as they claim (95% of Femto), why bother using an external DAC? Just remove the digital out at all and reduce some cost and valuable space. If the person needs a media server to connect to an even better external DAC (think Femto price up!), then wait for the rack version which will be more complete for that use. Probably it will feature different digital out connections (RCA, AES-EBU, etc), much larger capacity (Terabytes), remote control?, etc. For DACs below Femto level, the internal M should be better... and that is exciting.

Again different units best adapted to different needs.

There is some of the problem with Calyx. It's either not 95% of the Femto or the Femto is over rated. They may make great stuff but the hyperbole is definitely over the top. That said, keeping things all in one as opposed to transmitting, receiving and clocking a stream has definite advantages. It wouldn't need to be within 10% and still sound better all in one. Unfortunately it shouldn't be that close either. The differences in power supply and size of parts alone should put it at a significant disadvantage.

post #1995 of 5496
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Originally Posted by headwhacker View Post
 

Only one way to find out when that first production device gets into the hands of an early adaptor and give enough unbiased impression. Then we can validate their claims.

 

But they better do it soon. As DX90 approaches, for some people looking at both devices, the deciding factor could be whichever device draws first blood and get a reliable impressions.

I totally agree...

 

That's why I'm all happy that I had chance to listen to M's production model.

 

I probably got to this board too easily as a newbie... noticed it has been like a war in a sense....

 

But Let's not just blame on something unless suggesting alternatives. 

 

It's good enough to stick around positive feedback and sharp criticism w/ alternatives... 


Edited by hellGeeea - 3/30/14 at 5:40pm
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