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post #1576 of 5502
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

So where do you check to see the final arrangement of the M? Input, output, type of input and cards etc. I was following all this for a while but then I read a of the back and forth on what it would offer and not offer. No wifi, fine with me. No digital out? or Line out? Trying find all the finalized options of the M.

 

http://www.calyx.kr/

 

They have the finalized specs on the site.

post #1577 of 5502

It has Spanich language support.

post #1578 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post
 

It has Spanich language support.

I'd like some spinach support lol.

post #1579 of 5502
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Originally Posted by samsung View Post

I agree with that, although its not being released so soon, so why not get something for the interim.

No! Don't get the HM901 "for the interim" coz the "interim" would than become not so interim and you would find yourself the subject of the weirdest stares when seen with it even by your geekiest friend. Honestly the bulk doesn't bothered me as much as how 80's it looks.

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For a quick fix the X5 seems a much better bet.
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

Can I ask you in what way did the 120 fail big time?

(Thinking of making a large purchase, as they have come down to $999)

I consider AK120's SQ on similar level as X3/DX50. Maybe slightly better, but still behind X5. I fully expect Calyx M to sound better than AK120.
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Hum ok...pros and cons on this preorder decision.

Pros:
  • Looks nice, portable
  • Should sound nice (but not guarantee it will compete with 901)
  • Huge capacity
  • Great UI
  • There is a preorder price
  • It the latest thing and I always need the latest thing
  • I like Korean food

...

where is @kimvictor or any resident headfiers with access to Korea to bring us more intel on the SQ!! The suspense is killing me... need.. more.. Korean food! biggrin.gif
Edited by kkcc - 3/4/14 at 9:06pm
post #1580 of 5502
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

For a quick fix the X5 seems a much better bet.
I consider AK120's SQ on similar level as X3/DX50. Maybe slightly better, but still behind X5. I fully expect Calyx M to sound better than AK120.

Fully agree on this.

post #1581 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 
  • I like Korean food

 

 

Hmmmm Barbecue... 

 

 

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Edited by Sauntere - 3/4/14 at 9:10pm
post #1582 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

Yes, and it's priced at 2.5 - 3 times as much as the Calyx-M, does not sound significantly superior to DX100/HM-901, and may not sound significantly superior to the Calyx-M, either.

 

So why spend 2.5 - 3 times as much on it?

 

Hi Mython,

 

you've obviously been here a long while, and so I will show some respect. However you do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Astell&Kern :-) The vast majority of people who have listened to the AK240 have been completely blown away by it. Some people including the reviewers on the review thread even get pretty excited by it - something you seemed to find inappropriate, even though this is a community of people who are excited by HiFi.

 

So, the AK240 is a piece of high-end HiFi. It exists, people have it in their hands and those that have it, love it. Thats great, and the fact that it is very expensive is neither here nor there - we're talking about HiFi :-) It is an incredible piece of kit and A&K should be saluted for pushing things forward in this way. Others will play catch up and the whole portable HiFi market will be enriched by it.

 

On the other hand the Calyx M is not available yet and so when it comes down to what really matters, SQ, we are still in the dark! A few people who have tried it briefly say it sounds great - which is awesome - but who knows?

 

Competition is good.

 

Have you  yourself listened to an AK240?

post #1583 of 5502
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post

Yes, I really wish it (and the DX100/HDP-R10, HM-802) weren't the little monsters that they are, but they're still great for those who don't rely on pockets to carry their DAP hardware biggrin.gif


...I just happen to be one of the DAP-users who does rely on pockets, so... rolleyes.gif

Well I do routinely carry my HM901 in my pants pocket. Having said that I would love die for a package with the same SQ in a small package (well my wallet did died for the AK)...

Having spent more $$$ on DAPs that I will ever confess to the Mrs, I firmly believe power supply, and hence size and heat, are necessarily evils for SQ. Dx100 (and to some extend C4) was a breakthrough in that size:SQ ratio, now AK240 seems to be another big step (while AK120 failed big time). Been hoping M would be another step.

I am really curious of M's SQ at such a nice size. I managed to demo a couple Chinese android phone with the 9018k2m DAC trying to get some idea of this chip but they sounded no better than my Note 3 imo. Only takeaway is that implementation and amp stage is equally if not more important than the chip.

Without much way to anticipate/predict its sound, the M's $850 price really made this a much much tougher decision than if it would be $650.... especially with the $350 X5 that I demo'ed, is nicely built, and sounded excellent for its size/price.

Also, if the pre-order fulfillment is prioritized for local Korean market as the price is, I suspect we may receive the DX90 with dual ess9018k2m before the M.

Decisions decision....

Sorry for the incoherent babbling... I guess I've been trying to convince myself why the pre-order is a good idea after tracking this for so long... first world problem I guess!

 

Hey kkcc, Having demoed the X5 - can you give me an idea of how much sound quality I would be missing out on if I settled on the cheaper X5 vs. the balanced 901 or the AK240? What do you think the X5 is lacking in comparison?


Edited by Barra - 3/4/14 at 10:45pm
post #1584 of 5502
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Originally Posted by piercer View Post

Hi Mython,

you've obviously been here a long while, and so I will show some respect. However you do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Astell&Kern :-) The vast majority of people who have listened to the AK240 have been completely blown away by it. Some people including the reviewers on the review thread even get pretty excited by it - something you seemed to find inappropriate, even though this is a community of people who are excited by HiFi.

So, the AK240 is a piece of high-end HiFi. It exists, people have it in their hands and those that have it, love it. Thats great, and the fact that it is very expensive is neither here nor there - we're talking about HiFi :-) It is an incredible piece of kit and A&K should be saluted for pushing things forward in this way. Others will play catch up and the whole portable HiFi market will be enriched by it.

On the other hand the Calyx M is not available yet and so when it comes down to what really matters, SQ, we are still in the dark! A few people who have tried it briefly say it sounds great - which is awesome - but who knows?

Competition is good.

Have you  yourself listened to an AK240?

iRiver has shown what they think of the consumer. They deserve a salute alright.
post #1585 of 5502
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post


iRiver has shown what they think of the consumer. They deserve a salute alright.

 

Could you please explain what you mean by this?

post #1586 of 5502
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Originally Posted by piercer View Post

Could you please explain what you mean by this?

I think he meant middle finger salute lol tongue.gif
post #1587 of 5502

Oh Dear.... Please keep it away from here... 

 

Lets keep this about Calyx M speculation only.  Please.


Edited by Sauntere - 3/4/14 at 11:27pm
post #1588 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


I think he meant middle finger salute lol tongue.gif

 

Examples please

 

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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post
 

Oh Dear.... Please keep it away from here... 

 

Lets keep this about Calyx M speculation only.  Please.

 

I thought my post was quite relevant, since on the one hand a competitors extant device with amazing sound quality was being slated for being too expensive, and an, as yet, unavailable device (the Calyx M) is being lauded for as yet untested sound quality. 

 

'Speculation' is exactly the right word.

post #1589 of 5502
Wow...

FWIW I bought the AK240 at full MSRP from pretty much week 1. I absolutely love it and BELIEVE it is the overall best DAP currently on the market. But no, it's SQ don't "blow me away". It is not even materially better than the HM901. I can only say they are on par. The aesthetics, feature set, materials, built and finishing etc tho DID made a very strong impression.

Having said that, even as a happy owner, I have no issue agreeing that AK240 has very low pure SQ:price performance - exactly just half of what HM901 offers. As much as I m loving the AK240, I still hope Calyx M ended up to be equally exquisitely built and sound good enough to be a cheaper alternative.

IMHO, price, more so than SQ, is highly subjective and I really see no point criticizing others opinion on whether something is overpriced or not. And this has nothing to do with how good or how expensive other products are.
post #1590 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post  Hum ok...pros and cons on this preorder decision.
 
  • Volume control that can be taken out and stuck in your nose making you choke to death

 

I dare you to take a picture of yourself doing that. :evil:

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