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post #736 of 1933
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Originally Posted by ULUL View Post

Thanks everyone.

I looked at their various pricing structures again, and some past offers, and it just has an odd feel that something doesn't seem to add up. Either their cost of production is crazy cheap, or they are willing to loose money on some of the deals. I assumed that their cost of production is cheaper than their cheapest offers so that they are not loosing $ on any of their deals - now of the past. This is not criticizing - just ruminating that the whole pricing structure is unusual. It just has the feel of seeking to raise maximum $, even at the expense of profits. BUT then.....I'm new to this product . I'll zip my lips after this post...smily_headphones1.gif

UL

Your statement is true! They are a company, and they have to make a profit, because they spend their time, heart, mind and resources to dedicate for these products. 

We are searching for the best deal available, but that doesnt mean we have to gain at the expenses of others.

You are still welcome to ask any question here :D 

post #737 of 1933

1M$ Stretch Goal look sweet but honestly I don't think they can make it in the next 11 days...

Give them 10 more days, maybe...

post #738 of 1933

With the Femto clock upgrade, I would like to have a BNC world clock output for those Pulse and Pulse X that upgraded with Femto clock. 

So we can use this low jitter clock for other equipment with world clock input B)

post #739 of 1933
Thread Starter 

Waiting confirmation of Geek Pulse S (Single Ended, a lot we're asking these)

 

Dual mono design single ended outs

post #740 of 1933

That wouldn't be any different to a balanced version but with only half the output circuitry, which is what you'd get by simply not using the balanced out. I'm not sure ultimately that it would save much money per amp. Larry would have to answer on that one though.

post #741 of 1933
The Pulse S sounds good, and will likely be something that I would use if the dual mono design works out.

On the other hand, having the X, which has both the unbalanced and balanced connections, would make it more versatile. I'm still undecided if I want to upgrade to the X because of this reason. You can always have balanced to unbalanced, but not the other way around.

I don't see myself using balanced headphones any time soon, but having the balanced out connections would be more future-proof. The benefits of balanced cables still remains a mystery to me for the typical lengths of cable used for headphones (~3 meters max?).
post #742 of 1933

1 mill is a huge stretch, but those upgrades would be nice.

post #743 of 1933

The new strech goal is nice, but I don't think, that they can make it to 1 mil.

 

Most of the people got their upgrades, some spent more than 2000$ on upgrades. It started with a 299$ no brainer which is supposed to sound awesome and now the "no brainer Pulse" seems a bit like something insignificant if you don't get the upgrades.

 

It's like you should upgrade or it will sound less good. That's something keeping people away from funding imho.

post #744 of 1933
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Originally Posted by Anaximandros View Post
 

The new strech goal is nice, but I don't think, that they can make it to 1 mil.

 

Most of the people got their upgrades, some spent more than 2000$ on upgrades. It started with a 299$ no brainer which is supposed to sound awesome and now the "no brainer Pulse" seems a bit like something insignificant if you don't get the upgrades.

 

It's like you should upgrade or it will sound less good. That's something keeping people away from funding imho.

$$ plays a factor in each price point.

 

For example, if the LPS costs them over a hundred just for parts, do you honestly expect them to include it into the $299 product? Should the Pulse X not cost more even though they have to double the component count? They have to make some sort of profit.

 

The upgrade options help satisfy diverse wants and needs for different customers, and helps with different budget levels. For those wanting a no frills great DAC, the Pulse is available. For those seeking a $1,500+ DAC killer, the LPS, Femto, and Pulse X are available.

post #745 of 1933

I'll be honest, I'd prefer the $1M and $750K goals were swapped. But that's just my wishful desires. I really hope we're able to hit the $1M mark as those upgrades would be beneficial to everyone rather than to just some.

post #746 of 1933
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

$$ plays a factor in each price point.

 

For example, if the LPS costs them over a hundred just for parts, do you honestly expect them to include it into the $299 product? Should the Pulse X not cost more even though they have to double the component count? They have to make some sort of profit.

 

The upgrade options help satisfy diverse wants and needs for different customers, and helps with different budget levels. For those wanting a no frills great DAC, the Pulse is available. For those seeking a $1,500+ DAC killer, the LPS, Femto, and Pulse X are available.

Don't get me wrong.

 

Sure the upgrades should cost more. That's not the problem here. I never mentioned, that all the upgrades should be implemented withoug extra money. I upgraded my Pulse and have no problem with it. People who want the best options should jump in. The cost is low, I mean a nice LPS for only 299$. That's cheap.

 

It is just that new people can be overwhelmed by the updates and might think, that the normal Pulse is much inferior to the Pulse X + Femto + LPS upgrade.

 

Light Harmonic want to adress people to high res music and they did really well with their Geek Out campaign and what they did with the Pulse is really amazing. I like them and I really hope, that they can get to 1 mil. 

post #747 of 1933
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Originally Posted by Anaximandros View Post
 

Don't get me wrong.

 

Sure the upgrades should cost more. That's not the problem here. I never mentioned, that all the upgrades should be implemented withoug extra money. I upgraded my Pulse and have no problem with it. People who want the best options should jump in. The cost is low, I mean a nice LPS for only 299$. That's cheap.

 

It is just that new people can be overwhelmed by the updates and might think, that the normal Pulse is much inferior to the Pulse X + Femto + LPS upgrade.

 

Light Harmonic want to adress people to high res music and they did really well with their Geek Out campaign and what they did with the Pulse is really amazing. I like them and I really hope, that they can get to 1 mil. 

I have had mixed feelings as we went along, but now that it is all but over, I appreciate what they have done.  For those who wanted good performance at a great value, the baseline Pulse should be a really good component.  For those who want more, there are upgrades available to incrementally get there.  I ended up contributing more than I originally intended, but in the end, I still have paid only a little more than other components that I have bought in the past and this one has everything I have wanted and looks to be at minimum just as good as anything I have owned.

 

As much as it has been confusing for a lot of people, I don't think they could have done it any differently since they were bending over backwards to give us what we were asking for on the fly.

 

I'm very excited and next summer can't get here soon enough. 

post #748 of 1933

The benchmark will be the Geek Out. If it kicks all sorts of ass when they release it next month, then Pulse backers are going to be very excited.

post #749 of 1933
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

The benchmark will be the Geek Out. If it kicks all sorts of ass when they release it next month, then Pulse backers are going to be very excited.

+1

post #750 of 1933

It's pretty much acknowledged that the Geek Out pre-production samples kick ass.  The question is will the production unit be exactly the same.

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