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post #61 of 366
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No Apple product uses the CS4398. That's the Cirrus Logic flagship chip. In fact no Idevice uses an off the shelf model. They are all proprietary made by Cirrus Logic just for Apple.

 

I'll buy that explanation because it sounds logical. Why would a flagship DAC be in an ultra-low powered mobile device (in its original form)?

 

I don't know where I read that in the past but Wikipedia still shows the CS4398 as the DAC of the iPod Touch 3G in its technical specifications. They must have read the bad info that I read previously. I should know by that alone that it's wrong....


Edited by truckdriver - 3/30/14 at 3:45pm
post #62 of 366
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Of course he does, being my constant companion. My Dad said it best, when he said "four kids and a dog was a mistake, it should have been four dogs and a kid".

As for the AK240, again I have heard nothing but good things about it but at $2,500 I am not that curious.

 

Aw C'mon, Spook, buy the 240 and evaluate it for 1 week and send it to me and I'll try to get it back before your 30 day trial it up, capiche?

post #63 of 366
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Aw C'mon, Spook, buy the 240 and evaluate it for 1 week and send it to me and I'll try to get it back before your 30 day trial it up, capiche?

With my balanced amp and iPod I see no great reason to get the AK240 as the balanced amp and the ability to play Hi-Rez files are the main selling points. My iPod and amp cost $900 versus $2500 for the AK240.

I promise though if I ever get upgrade(itist) I will send you my AK240 for you to listen to and remember if I drop dead you still get my RSA Lightning and balanced silver cables.
post #64 of 366

Head-Fi sucks:)


Edited by MarcadoStalker7 - 6/17/14 at 8:34pm
post #65 of 366
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

 

I'll buy that explanation because it sounds logical. Why would a flagship DAC be in an ultra-low powered mobile device (in its original form)?

 

I don't know where I read that in the past but Wikipedia still shows the CS4398 as the DAC of the iPod Touch 3G in its technical specifications. They must have read the bad info that I read previously. I should know by that alone that it's wrong....

 

I checked the reference for that info on wikipedia and it refers to the ifixt teardown.  Interestingly the ifixit teardown does not specify the dac chip at all.  I would pretty surprised for it to really be the 4398 based on Apple's MO but who knows for sure; I can find no other info on that particular model.

post #66 of 366
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post
 

 

I checked the reference for that info on wikipedia and it refers to the ifixt teardown.  Interestingly the ifixit teardown does not specify the dac chip at all.  I would pretty surprised for it to really be the 4398 based on Apple's MO but who knows for sure; I can find no other info on that particular model.

 

Thank you for reminding me. IFixit is exactly where I read it. I was having trouble in 2010 with my HTC HD2 and I was on that site. I bought the Touch 3G shortly after cracking the HD2 screen trying to replace the digitizer.

 

But anyway, I still think you are correct. The Touch 3G is the most power efficient device that I own. The 3G is more miserly (with battery power) 4 years later than my (3 month old) Touch 5G.  It likely has a low powered proprietary DAC designed specifically for that purpose.

 

The 5G sounds better than the 3G.


Edited by truckdriver - 3/30/14 at 5:10pm
post #67 of 366
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


With my balanced amp and iPod I see no great reason to get the AK240 as the balanced amp and the ability to play Hi-Rez files are the main selling points. My iPod and amp cost $900 versus $2500 for the AK240.

I promise though if I ever get upgrade(itist) I will send you my AK240 for you to listen to and remember if I drop dead you still get my RSA Lightning and balanced silver cables.

 

Spook, you (of all people) should know that promises made on the internet(s) is "legally binding" in the 50 states, but perhaps not in that unknown zone called D.C.:biggrin:

post #68 of 366
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Spook, you (of all people) should know that promises made on the internet(s) is "legally binding" in the 50 states, but perhaps not in that unknown zone called D.C.biggrin.gif

The bad news as a promise it is unsupported by consideration to be valid as a contract but the good news is, under will law going all the way back the the Statute of Wills in 1540, since it is in writing it is enforceable against my estate in case of my untimely demise.
post #69 of 366
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Originally Posted by MarcadoStalker7 View Post
 

It's technically inferior, but not so much.

 

I don't find any graph with the DX50 frequency response, but, i read that iBasso are more FLAT than others ''audiophile'' DAP, but not close compared to the iPhone 4S, or iPod touch 5G.

So, like you said, it's slightly unbalanced in comparison, still colored, but you only notice that with an audio analyzer. Don't need to worry about that...

I am just going to assume from your post that you have never tried listening to the DX 50 for yourself. which I highly recommend you do and knowing what I am talking about instead of looking at graphs.

 

IMHO ever since I entered the audiophile world stats to me almost means nothing because we have come to a point where the higher the cost or better the stats does'nt mean a better listening expericance. I have tried the Roxanne  myself which costs RM 5.5k in my curency by I still prefer the Fit-Ear A111 which costs Rm2.1 k Bear in mind the Roxanne has 12 drivers per side while the Fit-Ear has only one driver.

 

  What I am trying to say here is trust your ears and only rely on graph if you can't tell the difference and want to really be sure there is a change. If you have tried them both and still think the Ipod 5 is superioir then I'll respect your opinion as they are your ears and not mine.

post #70 of 366
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The bad news as a promise it is unsupported by consideration to be valid as a contract but the good news is, under will law going all the way back the the Statute of Wills in 1540, since it is in writing it is enforceable against my estate in case of my untimely demise.

 

As usual, I don't have much of a legal leg to stand on. Well, I certainly hope you'll be standing on your legs until long after today's devices are antiques in the Smithsonian.

 

I wonder if the 5G is the last version of the iPod Touch?

post #71 of 366
Head-Fi sucks:)
Edited by MarcadoStalker7 - 6/17/14 at 8:33pm
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Head-Fi sucks:)
Edited by MarcadoStalker7 - 6/17/14 at 8:33pm
post #73 of 366
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I say technical superior, you can't look a technical thing when listening.

The iTouch 5G is technical flatter than DX50, simple.

I am not trying to argue with you over here, all I am saying is that u need to listen to both DAP before judging them. If you want to judge audio gears solely on their specs then that is up to you. 

post #74 of 366
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As usual, I don't have much of a legal leg to stand on. Well, I certainly hope you'll be standing on your legs until long after today's devices are antiques in the Smithsonian.

I wonder if the 5G is the last version of the iPod Touch?

Firstly, I said you do get my amp and cables upon my death and that promise is enforceable so be happy. :-)

Secondly, based upon Peter Oppenheimer's (Apple's CFO) comments at the last earnings call the 5th might be last last iPod touch ever made. He talked about ever decreasing sales of the iPod Touch and felt it is in a permanent sales decline.
post #75 of 366
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


Firstly, I said you do get my amp and cables upon my death and that promise is enforceable so be happy. :-)

Secondly, based upon Peter Oppenheimer's (Apple's CFO) comments at the last earnings call the 5th might be last last iPod touch ever made. He talked about ever decreasing sales of the iPod Touch and felt it is in a permanent sales decline.

 

I'll be happy if you live long and prosper my friend.

 


Kind of ironic that that was Spock's quote (since he wasn't a "happy" fellow much of the time....}.

 

But anyway, yeah, I think the 5G may be the last Touch unless Tim Cook goes against the grain.

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