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post #46 of 366
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I have tried desperately to protect my $120 investment in a Fiio E12 Mont Blanc amp to use to "help" my iPod Touch 5G drive my Grado PS 500 headphones.  But in fact, the amplifier makes not a hill of beans of difference... the sound is absolutely awesome from the line out (or from the Lightening to 30 pin to DAC to line out) connector... indistinguishable between with- and without-amp configurations.

And I SO wanted to hear an improvement with the amp... well, maybe with some other headphones (the Grado PS500s, at 32 ohms input impedance, are right within the space for which the iPod Touch 5G output was designed!)

When I had the Fiio E11 I felt even worse because I noticed that instead of improving the sound over the headphone out it actually colored the sound and added artifacts.

I do not want to seem like an audiofile but after owning or demoing the Fiio E11, E12 and the JDS Labs C5, I came to the conclusion that unless you are willing to spend at least $300-400 on a portable amp the headphone out is the best way to go for audio quality.
post #47 of 366
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When I had the Fiio E11 I felt even worse because I noticed that instead of improving the sound over the headphone out it actually colored the sound and added artifacts.

I do not want to seem like an audiofile but after owning or demoing the Fiio E11, E12 and the JDS Labs C5, I came to the conclusion that unless you are willing to spend at least $300-400 on a portable amp the headphone out is the best way to go for audio quality.

I have not tried those particular models of Fiio you mentioned, but have tried the Fiio E7. Although it was good, the battery drains quick.

Digizoid ZO2 is one of the best under $100 amps I've ever tried, but sadly it is discontinued.

post #48 of 366

Head-Fi sucks:)


Edited by MarcadoStalker7 - 6/17/14 at 8:36pm
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Head-Fi sucks:)


Edited by MarcadoStalker7 - 6/17/14 at 8:36pm
post #50 of 366
Head-Fi sucks:)
Edited by MarcadoStalker7 - 6/17/14 at 8:56pm
post #51 of 366
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Originally Posted by MarcadoStalker7 View Post

The only thing better on the DX50 and X3 compared to the iTouch 5G is the power, THE ONLY THING THAT IS BETTER...

In the other way, the iTouch 5G sound SO much better, totally flat, with 0 distortion and near zero impedance.
The DX50 and the X3 colors the sound so much, and have way more distortion. Much worse audio quality...

Sry but I have to disagree with you on that the dx 50 does not colour the sound at all the Dac on it is amazing so much so that you dun have to upgrade the Dac and just get a better amp to help organize the sounds better.
post #52 of 366
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


When I had the Fiio E11 I felt even worse because I noticed that instead of improving the sound over the headphone out it actually colored the sound and added artifacts.

I do not want to seem like an audiofile but after owning or demoing the Fiio E11, E12 and the JDS Labs C5, I came to the conclusion that unless you are willing to spend at least $300-400 on a portable amp the headphone out is the best way to go for audio quality.

 

Oh dude, you are such an audiophile. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a room like this in your house.

 

 

Just kidding. :wink_face:

 

I had the X3 for a month. It was spry in the lower treble/upper mids  (using my Shure IEMs and AKG headphones). But overall, I'd say the X3 was on par with the 5G. It sounded good with the included 24/192 binaural tracks.

 

I'd say the HM-802 was a little better than the 5G.

 

Hey, if I hadn't compared my 5G to the display 5Gs in the Apple Store, I'd think (by some of the descriptions here) that mine was a defective unit.....

 

Edit to add: But still appreciating though, the 5G is the best podcasting player ever.


Edited by truckdriver - 3/30/14 at 1:24pm
post #53 of 366
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Oh dude, you are such an audiophile. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a room like this in your house.




Just kidding. wink_face.gif

I had the X3 for a month. It was spry in the lower treble/upper mids  (using my Shure IEMs and AKG headphones). But overall, I'd say the X3 was on par with the 5G. It sounded good with the included 24/192 binaural tracks.

I'd say the HM-802 was a little better than the 5G.

Hey, if I hadn't compared my 5G to the display 5Gs in the Apple Store, I'd think (by some of the descriptions here) that mine was a defective unit.....

Edit to add: But still appreciating though, the 5G is the best podcasting player ever.

Oh Truck where did your Mom and I go wrong? 24/192 tracks, again who are you lending your 846 too? My standard poodle Boo? He really digs my 846 but with his floppy ears it is hard to get an IEM to go around his ears.

Edited by spook76 - 3/30/14 at 1:57pm
post #54 of 366
Truck, my brother from another mother,

Good news the Neutron Player app has hit the App Store and that is a great audiophile app. I have been playing my ALAC and FLAC files with it and the app is amazing.

And for those singing the praises for the AK240 (I have heard it is wonderful) remember iRiver uses two Cirrus Logic DACs in it, the same manufacturer of the DAC in the iPod Touch 5th.
post #55 of 366
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


Oh Truck where did your Mom and I go wrong? 24/192 tracks, again who are you lending your 846 too? My standard poodle Boo? He really digs my 846 but with his floppy ears it is hard to get an IEM to go around his ears.

 

Trying to get to the bottom of where you and my mom went wrong (with me) could take years of couch sessions. If you're willing to pay, I'll go....

 

My bad on the 24/192. It was meant as a description of the files (not a better format). I had forgotten the formal name. I remember it now, it was Dr. Chesky's album that was pre-installed on the X3. it wasn't that it was in 24/192. It was that it was not a "loudness production". And, the main quality was that it was binaurally recorded which gave it enhanced spatial range.

post #56 of 366
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

Truck, my brother from another mother,

Good news the Neutron Player app has hit the App Store and that is a great audiophile app. I have been playing my ALAC and FLAC files with it and the app is amazing.

And for those singing the praises for the AK240 (I have heard it is wonderful) remember iRiver uses two Cirrus Logic DACs in it, the same manufacturer of the DAC in the iPod Touch 5th.

 

Isn't it the very same DAC in the 5G? I don't know for sure.

 

Edit: Oh, and you better believe earphones for dogs is coming....


Edited by truckdriver - 3/30/14 at 2:02pm
post #57 of 366
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Isn't it the very same DAC in the 5G? I don't know for sure.

Edit: Oh, and you better believe earphones for dogs is coming....

It appears the iPod 5th has the Cirrus Logic CS35L19 DAC while the AK has two Cirrus Logic CS4398 DACs

As for my dog, he is spoiled enough as it is. Damn dog is too smart for his own good. He owns me.
post #58 of 366
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


It appears the iPod 5th has the Cirrus Logic CS35L19 DAC while the AK has two Cirrus Logic CS4398 DACs

As for my dog, he is spoiled enough as it is. Damn dog is too smart for his own good. He owns me.

 

You're right, but the CS4398 is the DAC in my iPod Touch 3G. It's an older model DAC. But the 240 has two of them. You know, because two is better than one. I'm tempted to put this whole thing to rest by buying the 240 and hearing for myself how good it actually is.

 

And of course your dog owns you. Does he have a job?

post #59 of 366
No Apple product uses the CS4398. That's the Cirrus Logic flagship chip. In fact no Idevice uses an off the shelf model. They are all proprietary made by Cirrus Logic just for Apple.
post #60 of 366
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post

You're right, but the CS4398 is the DAC in my iPod Touch 3G. It's an older model DAC. But the 240 has two of them. You know, because two is better than one. I'm tempted to put this whole thing to rest by buying the 240 and hearing for myself how good it actually is.

And of course your dog owns you. Does he have a job?

Of course he does, being my constant companion. My Dad said it best, when he said "four kids and a dog was a mistake, it should have been four dogs and a kid".

As for the AK240, again I have heard nothing but good things about it but at $2,500 I am not that curious.
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