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post #46 of 187

I'll leave this free Mr Bill album here for others to try with AX60. I'm finding the sub-bass rather additive with EDM and electronic music. My wallet continues to cringe in the corner fearing a purchase. Maybe out with the H-200? and in with the AX60? ;). Change of flavour possibly?

Get for free here > http://mrbill.bandcamp.com/album/focus

 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 11/3/13 at 3:14am
post #47 of 187

thanks for the album link, me like. 

post #48 of 187

I currently have 3 hybrids with me on hand thanks to a friendly Australian member. :wink:

Astrotec AX60 ($400) (non-bass filters)
Dunu DN-1000 ($200) (red rings)
T-Peos H-200 ( $250) (SPC 7N upgrade cable)

 

 



Because I only have limited time left with AX60 I'll give a quick run down and my thoughts.

Source used Colorfly C3 with FLAC (no amp)

Does AX60 really live up to the $400 AUD price tag next to these cheaper alternatives? Well it does, and it doesn't and that's really going to depend on personal preference. For me I cannot beat the tonality of DN-1000, from the first second I heard it, I was a very impressed. Where AX60 is warmer/smoother in the mid range and a touch bassy the Dunu leans opposite and has that clarity, air and crisp detail extension I lust for in an earphone.

So while I think AX60 is more refined the Dunu and H-200 are both a touch more transparent, to break it down they sound clearer at lower listening levels, but can also cause early fatigue,  this doesn't however hinder AX60's ability to remain the most coherent of all 3 to these ears. I can clearly hear more samples coming through the layers on AX60, even though it's warmer detail just comes through effortlessly for most parts.  I can hear background instruments and vocalists push through with ease and that's one technical ablity I'm really fond of in the Astrotec and IEM's in general. Hearing more of the music!



 

 



The low end is certainly most enhanced on AX60, with the right tips and a decent seal it can become a little bass heavy with certain genres (namely genres already mastered to enhance bass, EDM etc etc) So while I do enjoy to some extent and prefer that low end really filling out the stage what I'm finding is when I lift the mid range to get detail levels I enjoy that low end can become a little intrusive at times hindering the experience. Remembering this is only for my preference, I believe there are people out there who lust for a punchy deep low end AX60 will provide that with great satisfaction. I think between all 3 I prefer the speed and texture of H-200 dynamic driver the most, it has a similar bounce to it I once found in TF10 like a bubble of bass that surges from below the stage has good shape and clarity. On the other hand the Dunu is quite well behaved, maybe a touch bass heavy but not near AX60 levels.

In the mid range I actually find the Dunu the most airy in the upper mids so another point goes to them for that (preference), as I've said tonality is a big thing to me as is air in the upper mid range to lower treble, I enjoy  experiencing a mid range like it's floating inside (around) my head free as bird so to speak, so when you add the tonality of Dunu and air it out classes both H-200 and AX60 for my preferences. But lets get back to that cohesiveness, something AX60 just uses to put on a show.



 



To me AX60 has the widest and most immersive stage, it's expansive and very involving you get a good reproduction of a song no matter which genre, it sounds a little larger in headstage and soundstage width than both the others, so will AX60 has some warmth and that bass may become a little hard hitting when un-required, this cohesiveness and soundstage width steals the show to my ears. I may need to lift the volume a fair amount to make detail jump out but the way AX60 puts a song across with it's rather unique and rather classy timbre is very hard to beat and I'd say that's where your extra money will go.


Really to sum up I like all three of them, and very much DN-1000 clarity, transparency and tonality over both the others. I love AX60 for that coherent immersive stage and H-200 for having that raw detail and somewhat aggressive upper mid range with the right sources and guitar crunch. It's really a tough call on which is better because all three do something very right while other has the missing piece. But I cannot say besides the impressive 3D staging AX60 completely pulls away flawlessly, but what does in this hobby when personal preference is at stake, each persons ears are different.


One of each please will do me just fine! 

Special mentions for....

AX60 design (I think it's very impressive but a non detachable cable is thumbs down)
DN-1000's cable  (very well built and has a feeling of quality to me, strain reliefs could be a concern)
H-200's detail extension in the upper mids (some Taylor Swift songs just don't sound the same with anything else I've heard)
 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 11/6/13 at 3:23am
post #49 of 187

Great summary and comparisons!

So compared to the other two, the AX60 has the heaviest bass signature? 

 

(Bass is important to me ;))

post #50 of 187
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Great summary and comparisons!

So compared to the other two, the AX60 has the heaviest bass signature? 

 

(Bass is important to me ;))


Yes, AX60 has the most quantity for sure, and don't get me wrong it's very enjoyable, there's just some occasions I don't need it so emphasised. If you want to rock out though and get good decay with EDM like reverberating  sub-bass AX60 is you man, especially when the treble starts pushing through upstairs, "party in your head" so to speak It remains very refined at high volumes and because of the warmth in that mid range you're protected from fatigue.. I haven't taken them outside but I  imagine a few beers and an AX60 session out in the wild city along with some EDM at higher volumes you'll be randomly busting some moves down the foot path. Ha ha... It's just very involving... 

post #51 of 187

Nice impressions H20!

 

Just won a DN-1000 and I'll be comparing it to the AX60 later on. Maybe I will like them more this time. 

post #52 of 187
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I  imagine a few beers and an AX60 session out in the wild city

 

NOW we're talking :wink_face:

 

It's the first hybrid IEM that I've tried. I'm exited to get some more facetime with it.

 

But considering it's my first, I'll only be able to compare it to other dual and triple BA IEMs, or dynamics.. 

post #53 of 187
Great write-up Luke! How do you think the AX60 fairs against fast paced rock n roll?
post #54 of 187

Did you try the AX60 with both filter types? Sounds like you only used the bass ones.

post #55 of 187
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Nice impressions H20!

 

Just won a DN-1000 and I'll be comparing it to the AX60 later on. Maybe I will like them more this time. 


I think you'll be really pleased with them Lin, shoudl suit you just fine. 
 

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Great write-up Luke! How do you think the AX60 fairs against fast paced rock n roll?


I'll give it a whirl and report back, but your DN-1000 do a mighty fine job in general, they're little gems, but won't remain quite as refined as AX60 at higher volumes. 

 

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Did you try the AX60 with both filter types? Sounds like you only used the bass ones.


I actually used the non-bassy filters my entire loan period, it's just a slightly bass heavy signature.  I hope my impressions didn't make it sound like a bass massacre. it's just a little intrusive with certain genre's and will highly depend on your volume levels. 

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I actually used the non-bassy filters my entire loan period, it's just a slightly bass heavy signature.  I hope my impressions didn't make it sound like a bass massacre. it's just a little intrusive with certain genre's and will highly depend on your volume levels. 

 

Great write up comparisons against the other hybrids H20Fidelity!

 

Just as the two current filters provide quite different results, we have been advised that Astrotec are working on some new additional filters that will be available for a minimal fee, that will provide more options in tuning the sound signature.  These will suit the AX60, AX7 and the upcoming AX30.


Edited by billymav - 11/6/13 at 4:26am
post #57 of 187

Is there a release date for the AX30?

post #58 of 187
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Originally Posted by billymav View Post  Just as the two current filters provide quite different results, we have been advised that Astrotec are working on some new additional filters that will be available for a minimal fee, that will provide more options in tuning the sound signature.  These will suit the AX60, AX7 and the upcoming AX30.

 

This is really great news that will make their new family of products much more versatile.

post #59 of 187
Thread Starter 
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Is there a release date for the AX30?


Very soon!  :wink_face:

post #60 of 187
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Originally Posted by billymav View Post
 

 

Great write up comparisons against the other hybrids H20Fidelity!

 

Just as the two current filters provide quite different results, we have been advised that Astrotec are working on some new additional filters that will be available for a minimal fee, that will provide more options in tuning the sound signature.  These will suit the AX60, AX7 and the upcoming AX30.


I would of liked to put more time in however some outside world (relationship  commitments) have really cut my time short this past week.
I'm sure the others will have solid impressions as AX60 is a rather capable sounding hybrid.

Great to know about the filters! Also the amp we spoke about is running great with a freshly installed battery. ;) 

@~D-Marco I haven't forgotten about your request to run some fast paced rock and will get around to that. 

As it stands I'll have Astrotec AX60 and amp unit until tomorrow then forwarding it on to White Lotus  who I've already got their address. 

 

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