So it finally became a bit less warm here for me to spend a bit of time with Asortec AX60 and DUNU DN-D1000 and T-PEOS H200.
The short version is - like some others I won't really but an AX60 after having DN-D1000, will sell H-200, and am keeping DN-D1000 but there's something about sub-bass impact on H-200 that
I'll miss over DN-D1000.
So for AX60
- I tried all the included tips and some of the Dunu DN-D1000. Fit wise I have trouble keeping these in my ears unless I anchor the cable mount point against my ear (and it's a
bit sharp)overall sound:
I'm not sure the overall sound is entirely coherent on AX60. Depending on how you look at it - Astrotec definitely wanted a sub-bass boost but no mib-bass bloat, detailed and warm-ish mids,
and extended highs, however for me they overshot on the 7-9k peak. I'm not sure they were going for neutral mids, since if you eq down the peak, it's reasonably mids-forward. The mids are a
bit 'hot towards the top as well'Bass and mids
There's quite a bit of sub-bass, and with the interchangeable filters
'bass filter' = more bass-prominent sound
or 'reference' for more 'detailed' sound. Not sure if mids are filtered too with the Bass filter, but seems a bit like it.
I probably prefer the reference filter, it does lose a bit of bass impact but seems a bit clearer in the mids with it. Like some others remarked - not sure what the deal with the bass is.
There's a decent amount of bass boost, and no excessive mid-bass hump. It eqs up well too. It however does sound a bit odd or muddy (not JH16FP speed or impact wise, or amount wise).
Not sure if the amount or decay or delay, or whatever else. Order of preference for bass would probably have to be: H-200->DN-D1000->AX60. (desc)
I ended up peaking at Rin's graphs in the end... Not sure I hear the phase issues or distortion for the mids (the THD@4% should be audible). I do hear something odd coherency wise
Overall the mids sounded very odd to me in combination with the treble and bass. I think compared to H200 they sound more detailed, but less warm than D1000. However the integration into
the sound as a whole didn't do it for me on AX60. (vs say UM Mentor or JH16). DN-D1000 did well in that regard.Highs:
Going up from the mids- I definitely hear a 7-9k treble peak+resonance on AX60, which I'm personally sensitive to and have to floor with EQ . While it's there with say H200 (technically there's another 10k peak there, but oh well), to me it's more
prominent on AX60. Cymbals sound pretty good on AX60 and DN1000. Sound-stage wise, I'm not sure the H-200 are there upper mids or treble wise (aside from the peak).
While tip rolling moves the peak around via insertion depth bit, that didn't help me either for AX60.
Finally, I do prefer the tonality of Dunu 1000 to AX60. The dunus sound a lot more realistic and coherent too.
The only problem I really had with DN-D1000 is the bass driver.Accessories:
Pretty good accessories - a few tips. No foamies though or shirt clip unfortunately .
Regarding the interchangeable nozzles - great idea, could make makes ones with variable nozle length to aid people who want deeper insertion.design, comfort and isolation
Not a big fan of the body shape and sharp edges of the cable mount bit or the general earphone shape. The sharp edges can scratch your phone, or if you use it to anchor the earphone in your
ear and catch something on the cable - your ear. There are many ways you can wear them, and the best way for me, ended up being over the ear, with the cable holder sitting between the
tragus and the anti-tragus.
They do fit me ok and seal, but the isolation is not great and the fit is shallow
With the straight plug, I'm not confident if you carry them in your jeans pocket with a large phone it won't eventually wear out from being bent. The strain relief looks pretty solid
Special mention goes to DN-D1000
Amazing accessories - clip, almost as many tips types as I own from years of collecting IEMs. A great range of sizes. Except for foam tips... that are all small... Heh. (definitely hear
larger sound stage on red foamies vs blue ones... juuust playing with you...)
People have already covered the spacers, but you can increase the insertion depth by adding these before the tips. To their credit all the nozzle is long enough for the largest spacer. I
prefer the red spacer. I'll omit the description from the manual about how the sound varies - but it does a bit. From what I understand it moves the treble peak around can make a difference
between slightly irritating and great. (oh and I do realize the includes chart looks to not be an FR chart
). The treble peak I was hearing is no longer there for some reason in D1000.
As I mentioned above to me the coherency of the sound on D1000 is rather good. The mids are rather sweet but detailed enough, and the treble is extended but not harsh (maybe not as extended
as AX60, and the cymbals aren't that crisp, but neither is the 8k peak
) . The bass kicks less than H200 and I can't EQ it up as well (eqing <40HZ doesn't seem to do much for me on
these), but it's still 'good' overall. I think I will agree with d marc0 and say the do bass guitar better than H200. In any case, I can't seem to eq out deep bass out of DN1000 and it bothers me.H-200
While I'm definitely selling these because of the 5khz dip, and 10k peak, and the less than forward or overly detailed mids - I've been happily ignoring the 5k dip since it's not that
audible per se unless coming back from D1000 or mentor, eqing the 10k peak down, and eqing the bass up to make these into a bass-head IEM with reasonable mids and fairly calm rest of the
FR. Not even quite like that - these do drums better than both D1000 and AX60 (d marc0
). D1000 can't quite kick like that. Comfort and fit wise I probably prefer them marginally over
the D1000- the oval spacer holds them in place better for me.
Accessories wise - Quite a few silicon tips, SF only, and one foamie. The removable cable and a cable with a remote are nice - otherwise - not much to write home about.Palios AMP: http://www.noisymotel.com/product.asp?ProductID=597
Billy has included a Palaios amp with the AX60 demo. I think Charles and Palaios did a fine job.
It measures well, and sounds overall neutral to me. The low output impedance is must and a win for the amp. I'd be interested to see how it does with higher impedance load for the
and find out more what the load and power output were for the one shown on their site (it might be there I'm just not seeing it). (among other things to see how well it handles higher
impedance,lower spl headphones)
The production versions (laquerred) do look pretty as well and it looks like the door battery holds better. If I had a DAP I really liked feature wise, but had impedance problems, or wanted
to drive larger headphones I'd probably buy one. It sound good with my GMP450 pro (300 ohm) and for most song the volume dial is < 1/2. (driven off a clip+ at full volume). I don't hear
any odd changes to the sound of GMP450 so that's great as well.
I think they could use a different knob and in/out sockets (aethetics wise)
Personally I prefer Li-Ion + charger port, not 9v batteries and battery door. That said the amp opens and the battery slides out easily enough (on some amps you have to fiddle with it a lot
and nearly snap the power wires off the amp before you can change it and need to carry screwdrivers or pliers)
here's the pic gallery
http://www.head-fi.org/g/a/844072/d1000-ax60-h200-merlin-jh16fp/Edited by svyr - 1/26/14 at 5:14am