Originally Posted by RonaldDumsfeld
Fair enough. Everyone has different needs and expectations. Wish you the best in your search.
It's an open forum. Other people with similar questions will be reading. Some might find products they hadn't previously considered interesting.
Thank you and I absolutely agree, I'm sure some who read the thread may very well find such products to be all they need.
Well no. It isn't. Transparent means you cannot tell it's there. It's objective. You can test it.
I did with the MOTU wjen I first got it. Play a record direct, Play the same source after A/D and then D/A conversion. Which was which? No one I know could tell. Very surprising. Also annoying. Why not?
So I looped the output back into the input 4x. Surely I could hear the difference after 4 iterations of A/D and D/A? Nope. Neither could anyone else.
Of course some people are capable of hearing a difference in different brands of cable. So. ymmv.
Well, for one, like I said everyone's ears are physically different, meaning they will perceive different outputs as "neutral." People with HF loss from age or too many concerts tend to prefer brighter sounds, because it makes up for what they've lost. Likewise, everyone's ears and ear canals are shaped differently to amplify or attentuate certain frequencies. So no, there is not one "true neutral." Also, measurements are not everything, partly for the same reason, and partly because there is just so much more to sound than what we can measure. The O2 amp, when properly built, measures perfectly in almost every way, and yet there are some headphones that just don't sound right out of it.
Nothing wrong with supporting and encouraging excellence in engineering design with your own money if you have it. Commendable. On a budget you will get 10x the value spending the same money on speakers, headphones, cartridges and pickups rather than cables, converters or even amps. Spend the big money where the big differences exist.
I'm not a believer in cables or anything of the like, so no need to convince me.
I think you missed my point again. I don't think workaday closed backed cans are better than expensive open backs. Rather that active desktop multimedia monitors make high end cans redundant. If you are in the same room as someone listening on open back cans it's still annoying. If there is just you in a room with small monitors and you close the door it doesn't annoy anyone else. Monitors are loads better than aven the best cans.
*shrug* I really enjoy being able to play music on my HD650s when my girlfriend is home, because I want a more private, isolated experience, and she can be in the other room without hearing my music, and yet if she needs me, I can hear her. Its a nice middle ground and doesn't take up nearly as much space.