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I have a question: the drivers are attached using tape (dynamat?) to the cup, right? Doesn't the tape affect the wood natural resonances to some extend?   

The drivers slip right into the cups, so they have to be liberated.
post #122 of 220

I meant the plastic driver enclosure and the wood are not always perfect, there's always some minor differences which can cause some distorsion 

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It's a tight fit.

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It's a tight fit.

 insert "thats what she said" joke here

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It's a tight fit.
 insert "thats what she said" joke here
Why would you ever try to tape it to get it to fit better D:
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Why would you ever try to tape it to get it to fit better D:

Each to his own I always say...Different "strokes" for different folks biggrin.gif
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I prefer chewed bubble gum to attach my drivers.

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I'll be wrapping up this Saturday!

Can't wait to see your review.

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Can't wait to see your review.

I'm done! I'll have everything typed up after Christmas! The cups will ship after the holiday for the next victim lol

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Can't wait to see your review.
I'm done! I'll have everything typed up after Christmas! The cups will ship after the holiday for the next victim lol
glad to hear everything is coming along nicely!
post #131 of 220

Excited for the next review.

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Excited for the next review.


In time... its just been crazy around here... I should have it up tomorrow.

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In time... its just been crazy around here... I should have it up tomorrow.


No rushes buddy. Just enjoying this thread :)

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Just wanted to post up that I've been enjoying the thread but if you would, take me off the list. Reason being I'm thinking very hard about selling my 325's and I'm definitely not going to liberate the drivers on my new to me RS1's. I will keep watching the thread though and thanks for the willingness to include me in the experiment.  

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Ok guys I've finally had some time to turn my listening notes into something that makes sense...

 

First my setup Grado SR60i/255i drivers, o2 combo/AudioGD 11.32/Schiit Lyr,LD1+ running 6DJ8 tubes, PC with FLAC files only.

 

I used the following songs to test these bad boys out...

 

1

Rachel Sermini - Bones

Lucia - Silence

Jane Moheit – Honeysuckle Rose

Anna Murphy - Lovelornia

 

2

Foster the People - Houdini

Gogol Bordello - My Companjera

Pure Reason Revolution - Apogee

Saybia – Snake Tongued Beast

 

3

Dream Theater – The Glass Prison

Megadeth – Take No Prisoners

Myrath – Beyond the Stars

Rhapsody of Fire – Crystal Moonlight

Sabaton – White Death

 

4

Pink Floyd – Time

Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody

Ozzy Osbourne – Mr. Crowley

Iron Maiden – Fear of the Dark

 

5

Fintroll - Ett Folk Förbannat

Kalmah – Coward

Arkona – Slovo

Eluveitie – Alesia

 

Yes my ham-fisted rock/metal playlist should play to the strengths of everything Grado... that and the vocal stuff I snuck in the beginning also helps highlight the strengths of these drivers...

 

ALL CRITICAL LISTENING WAS DONE WITH THE o2 COMBO

 

I did try them all on a variety of equipment AFTER my initial listening and added any other impressions on a case by case basis.

 

Walnut - They really are pretty (probably my 2nd favorite aesthetically) With both drivers I noticed a definite warmness added, and some extra impact (although somewhat loose) Fairly articulate, they handled most things well. The added bass impact did mask some details... on occasion on double bass passages (see groups 3 and 5)the precise click as the bass drum was stuck was less defined. Guitars occasionally lost texture. Overall though very pleasant on the o2... a good choice for a very neutral amp... I tried these with some of my tube amps and really hated them on the Lyr and was indifferent with my modded LD1+

 

Cherry – Absolutely the most beautiful of the group (pics really can't convey the sparkle and depth of the wood grain) I've owned cherry cups from 7keys before with a pair of Magnum's I built and loved the. They are fairly neutral, maybe a slight roll off of bass impact. They are quick and unforgiving on my solid state gear. A treat if you like analytical sound that boarders on pleasant. These handled group 1,2, and 4 the best out of all of the cups. I loved these on the o2 BUT I loved them even more with the Lyr and even MORE with my LD1+ . (tubes add +5 to the pleasant factor lol)

 

Maple – Similar to the cherry cups but I found they had somewhat sweeter highs with my 225i driver specifically... the sr60i's I didn't notice any real difference. Balanced overall with a slightly warm tilt to their sound. I really like these tonally even though they didn't excel at any one thing. They seemed a little more forgiving of the hot recordings in group 5 then the cherry cups.

 

Birch – Warm, rounded and polite. These had a definite roll off in the treble frequencies and some added bass impact. The best at group 5. But boring everywhere else.

 

I was going to include my ebony cups BUT it really isn’t a fair comparison because those cups are deeper then these and because of that have better dynamics, impact and weight.

 

I liked the...

 

Cherry cups the best! Balanced and engaging they worked fairly well with everything I threw at them and paired very well with both solid stated and tubes!

 

Walnut was my second favorite. It worked well with neutral sources because it brought its own flavor to the sound. Toe tapping fun, but not the most accurate by a long shot. Good with neutral solid state amps.

 

Maple – Even handed and engaging. I liked the overall tonal balance these imparted on the music I tested with BUT I didn't like these enough to displace the cherry cups. These are nice because they like the cherry cups take on either tubes or solid state amps and sound good.

 

Birch because of its slightly polite tone lands here. A nice wood as far as tone goes it ultimately sits in an odd place between neutral and warm.

 

There ya go guys! This was great fun! I do have a request though... when and if we do this again can we make the cups deeper? Like RS1 deep, the added material seems to help a lot with adding fullness and depth to the sonic output. It also might make it easier to pick out the differences between the different tone woods.

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