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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I am pretty much a virgin in this environment and am as familiar with the technical aspects of headphones as Sheldon Cooper is familiar with women.

 

I've only had one set of headphones (Sennheiser HD202) and that's about all I know.

 

I prefer circumaural headphones as I hate the feeling of in-ear and sweat profusely with on-ear!

 

My budget is around 200-250$

 

My main usage is for movies, games and music. I would like to use them with my modest Pioneer VSX-323-K receiver (first receiver ever) as well as use them with my iPad.

 

I prefer closed-back so I can listen to stuff without disturbing the wife and not hearing the kids.

 

Should I get Dynamic or dual-driver headphones w/single or dual crossovers (a friend suggested the latter)?

 

Models I have looked at so far are:

 

Audio-Technica ATH-M50S

Beyerdynamics DT770

Sony MDR-V6 and MDR-7506

Denon AH-D1100

UltraSone HFI-580

AKG K550

 

Others too, but that list is at home and my memory is as solid as a goldfish.

 

Any input and direction you can steer me in would be greatly appreciated as I don't want my purchase to be a dud.

 

Cheers,

Pat

post #2 of 18
Thread Starter 

Don't let the list fool you, it took me 3 weeks to come up with that list...been looking at and reading numerous reviews to narrow the field down. When I want something I try to do as much research as humanly possible to 1) get a better understanding of the product and 2) educate myself on some of aspects to look for.

post #3 of 18

Why type of music are you listening to?

 

 

Out of your list I would say the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 is a very good choice.


Edited by Closingracer - 10/15/13 at 8:03am
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 

My musical preference is more of the rock genre: Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix etc... to Metallica, Avenged Sevenfold etc...

 

I want a nice clean audio with just enough bass to get the blood pumping.

I also don't want the singer or other aspects to be drowned out 'cause one thing is producing more volume than another.

 

I am not sure about mids and highs and what not so is it best to get a balanced headphone in that regard or should I also look at getting a portable amp (I saw a couple of reviewers mention that as ways of maximizing potential)

post #5 of 18

I would say the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 still a good choice.

 

 

The impendence on them is 38 ohms so your ipad should be fine to power it without an amp ( The Fiio E11 is a cheap amp if you just want a decent cheap one around 50 bucks)

post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 

Nice! The ATH-M50S have been one of my top choices so far...based on reviews i've seen. I am also keen on the AKG K550

 

Appreciate the input!

post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by groves69 View Post
 

My musical preference is more of the rock genre: Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix etc... to Metallica, Avenged Sevenfold etc...

 

I want a nice clean audio with just enough bass to get the blood pumping.

I also don't want the singer or other aspects to be drowned out 'cause one thing is producing more volume than another.

 

I am not sure about mids and highs and what not so is it best to get a balanced headphone in that regard or should I also look at getting a portable amp (I saw a couple of reviewers mention that as ways of maximizing potential)

I do not know if you would want open headphones, and I doubt you would want to use them for gaming......but for the kind of music that you listen to and for the clean audio that you are looking for don't forget about grado headphones, they should definitely be in the mix and there are a cople pair that you can get new for under $100   the SR60 and the SR80....great cans for rock

post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 

I actually had the Grado SR60 on my list as well as the Sennheiser HD598...but removed them from list as my wife hates when she can hear what I am watching/listening to.

 

So ideally looking at closed-back with some form of noise-cancellation to appease the Mrs.

post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

I do not know if you would want open headphones, and I doubt you would want to use them for gaming......but for the kind of music that you listen to and for the clean audio that you are looking for don't forget about grado headphones, they should definitely be in the mix and there are a cople pair that you can get new for under $100   the SR60 and the SR80....great cans for rock

 

 

Actually wouldn't Open headphones be good for gaming since the soundstage would make it better no?

post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 

Soundstage seems to be a pretty telling factor for headphones...is it detrimental to choose one with solid soundstage or, given my lack of experience and knowledge, not be a huge deal?

 

I am so out of my element. I am more PC and video conference oriented. Very much not an audiophile...yet!

 

I should also note that gaming is more of a tertiary factor in this...but one I thought I should still consider. But movies are #1, followed by tunes.


Edited by groves69 - 10/15/13 at 9:06am
post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 

Would I be taking a risk in buying either headphone listed and referred without listening to either? I am in a situation where I have no store (that I know of) that has a wall of 'phones I can go and try. (I am in Ottawa, Canada.

 

Or does anyone have other suggestions I should consider in order to help facilitate my hunt? Again I appreciate the input.

post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by groves69 View Post
 

Would I be taking a risk in buying either headphone listed and referred without listening to either? I am in a situation where I have no store (that I know of) that has a wall of 'phones I can go and try. (I am in Ottawa, Canada.

 

Or does anyone have other suggestions I should consider in order to help facilitate my hunt? Again I appreciate the input.

 

 

If you buy from amazon ( I assume they have the same policies as the amazon in the states have) they have a decent return policy. Soundstage will always sound better from open backed headphones but They will annoy your wife  and you will hear your kids. Closed back headphones will give you what you need and the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 is a good choice for a closed back headphone in its price range

post #13 of 18

Add the Shure SRH840 to your list.  Still remains one of my favourite closed headphones and IMO far superior (sonically) to the M50.

 

Reviews here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/shure-srh840/reviews

 

My review is in there somewhere as well.

post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

Add the Shure SRH840 to your list.  Still remains one of my favourite closed headphones and IMO far superior (sonically) to the M50.

 

Reviews here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/shure-srh840/reviews

 

My review is in there somewhere as well.

 

 

eh for a more neutral  sound sure  ... but for some color I would say the M50  which sounds great and much better for gaming then the Shure SRH840. Also can the ipad run the SRH640 with the impedance at 44 ohms? The M50 is around 38 ohms. I Don't own an ipad or any tablet but I figured it would be around the same as iphones

post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by Closingracer View Post
 

 

 

eh for a more neutral  sound sure  ... but for some color I would say the M50  which sounds great and much better for gaming then the Shure SRH840. Also can the ipad run the SRH640 with the impedance at 44 ohms? The M50 is around 38 ohms. I Don't own an ipad or any tablet but I figured it would be around the same as iphones

 

I wonder if you actually have heard both - or are you just guessing?  I have heard both.

 

To specifically answer your comments.

 

  1. M50 has a very narrow and congested sound stage.  The last thing I would recommend them for is gaming.
  2. The SRH840 can be driven easily out of an iPhone4 - an iPad will be no problem for them
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