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Shure se425 next? Maybe thinking of starting a rig build (have akg240mk2+sennHD25-1ii)

post #1 of 16
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Hi all

Im new here even though ive been reading the forum for some years now.

I have the above cans and im thinking about a shure se425 lately.
I use the 240 at work now and the hd25 at home and with me outside. (Both cans were good options at the time because i do a tiny bit of music production)

One of the things that made me think of an IEM is the portability of hd25. If you put them to your neck i get a headache after a while (at the back of the neck i mean, when not listening to music because you need to do something else while outside.

(As a long term plan i might want to add some amp or dac/amp in the future that might drive some better cans for home... I dont have a huge budget though)

Are shure se425 worth it if you have the hd25 or im just in the mood to spent money tongue.gif ?

Thanks
Tasos
post #2 of 16
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:( no ideas?

post #3 of 16
It all depends on the kind of music you listen to, and the amp you drive them with.

I ended up with both!
post #4 of 16
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I mainly listen to electronic music (not D+B or hard stuff) example of a playlist below.

 

[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/2rfwsc1.png[/IMG]

 

Both cans you mean? hd25 and se425?

 

T

 

EDIT: I don't have an Amp yet. I want to go for the Shure first with an iphone5S or GalaxyNote2 as source and then build up from there.

 

I though (from reading the forum) that its better to invest in a nice set of over-cans and then go search for apm/dec.


Edited by Varoudis - 10/14/13 at 7:44am
post #5 of 16
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Any thoughts on the comparison between hd25 and se425?
Is it worth the 200pounds or is a small step up compared to hd25.
Maybe i need to consider something better?
Thx
post #6 of 16

If you want a real 'bang for buck' IEM at the moment - great all-rounder which does practically everything right - consider the HiSoundAudio BA-100.

 

I'm a former owner of the SE425 (also owned the SE420, SE315 and currently SE 535 Ltd Ed).  The 425s are wonderful IEMs - but they are quite flat with audible roll-off in both the lower bass and treble.  Probably not ideally suitable for electronic music IMO.

 

The BA100 have just been released - and you should be able to pick them up (if you're quick) for their introductory price (killer deal).

 

Here's my review : http://www.head-fi.org/products/hisoundaudio-ba100/reviews/9694

 

Here's link on where to get them (at a special price) : http://www.head-fi.org/t/684748/hisoundaudio-s-ba-100-challenge-the-multi-drivers-earpphones

 

Best thing - just use your portable (DAP) - don't need separate amp or DAC.

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

If you want a real 'bang for buck' IEM at the moment - great all-rounder which does practically everything right - consider the HiSoundAudio BA-100.

I'm a former owner of the SE425 (also owned the SE420, SE315 and currently SE 535 Ltd Ed).  The 425s are wonderful IEMs - but they are quite flat with audible roll-off in both the lower bass and treble.  Probably not ideally suitable for electronic music IMO.

The BA100 have just been released - and you should be able to pick them up (if you're quick) for their introductory price (killer deal).

Here's my review : http://www.head-fi.org/products/hisoundaudio-ba100/reviews/9694

Here's link on where to get them (at a special price) : http://www.head-fi.org/t/684748/hisoundaudio-s-ba-100-challenge-the-multi-drivers-earpphones

Best thing - just use your portable (DAP) - don't need separate amp or DAC.

This is hard to find were I am, london.

What about 535? Ill stay with just the source for now (iphone 5s or note2).

"Audible roll off" ? 425 seems to have a nice range till quite low.
What do you mean about that? Maybe im missing something,

T
Edited by Varoudis - 10/14/13 at 12:36pm
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post


This is hard to find were I am, london.
 

 

You have to order it on-line.  And I wouldn't be suggesting it - especially as an owner of the 535's - unless I thought it was really good.  But ultimately that's you call - you could get it for sub USD 60 right now ordering on-line.

 

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What about 535? Ill stay with just the source for now (iphone 5s or note2).

 

535 is a very good IEM and would be fine straight out of an iPhone5 (it's perfect out of an iPhone 4 - no hiss).  But again - do you want (or need) to invest that sort of money?  Your call I guess.  If you're considering the cost of a 535 - then that opens up a lot more options.  Maybe try Joker's large IEM thread?  I do personally like the 535 (Ltd Ed) with EDM.

 

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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post

"Audible roll off" ? 425 seems to have a nice range till quite low.
What do you mean about that? Maybe im missing something,

T

 

Bass is generally flat - but doesn't do sub-bass as well (rolls off or is lower in volume as you go deeper).  I sometimes had to EQ the bass quantity up a bit (for more impact).  The treble is 'polite' - and I also had to bump this up via EQ.  EDM / Electronic music lovers often like a slightly U curved frequency (more emphasis on bass and upper mids/treble.  The 425 doesn't have either.

post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

You have to order it on-line.  And I wouldn't be suggesting it - especially as an owner of the 535's - unless I thought it was really good.  But ultimately that's you call - you could get it for sub USD 60 right now ordering on-line.


Bass is generally flat - but doesn't do sub-bass as well (rolls off or is lower in volume as you go deeper).  I sometimes had to EQ the bass quantity up a bit (for more impact).  The treble is 'polite' - and I also had to bump this up via EQ.  EDM / Electronic music lovers often like a slightly U curved frequency (more emphasis on bass and upper mids/treble.  The 425 doesn't have either.

You are right, not always the price-tag correlates with quality. To be honest i read your review but the price sounded to good to be true.

On the other hand akg240 seem to be flat and i wanted it that way for the music production, i now use it at work all day listening to music and i never had a problem or used eq.

It seems that indeed 525 territory is large and maybe 'too much' for what i need.

Thnx
T
post #10 of 16

No problem.  Other reviews / impressions on the BA100 here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/683059/hisound-ba100-iem-appreciation-thread

http://www.head-fi.org/products/hisoundaudio-ba100/reviews

post #11 of 16
The HD25 is quite an energetic-sounding, fast and detailed can (but with little or no soundstage). The SE425, IMO, is closer to the HD600 in balance (mid-centric, excellent soundstage and imaging). I use them primarily for listening to Jazz.

I suspect that you might prefer a dynamic IEM (GR07?).
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by CJG888 View Post

The HD25 is quite an energetic-sounding, fast and detailed can (but with little or no soundstage). The SE425, IMO, is closer to the HD600 in balance (mid-centric, excellent soundstage and imaging). I use them primarily for listening to Jazz.

I suspect that you might prefer a dynamic IEM (GR07?).

 

:( half of the cans I see around here are not available in EU. I can't find this one around here.

 

I;ve got a tip that in Seoul (south korea) there is big store dedicate to headphones. In be there in 2 weeks and maybe I have to go and check a couple.

post #13 of 16
Have you tried Frogbeats in the UK?
post #14 of 16
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looks good but I think customs are a later step. I first need to see how the inner-ear is working with me.

T

post #15 of 16
They are (or at least were) VSonic distributors for the UK.
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