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So, as I have been on here researching headphones, my dad has given me his full mid sixties to late 90's rock collection. Everything from rolling stone box sets to Beatles well over 600 to 800 albums. Now it is time to get a turntable setup. You are going to be thinking with all those album he had to have a turntable,  my brother rcvd the B&O Beco center with turntable and tape deck, and some jbl studio monitors. He already had a huge album collection and what I rcvd is basically what he really did not want. I have been able to acquire a nice Marantz 2325 vintage receiver fully refurbed, but I still need speakers and turntable.  

 

The turntable I was looking at was  Pro-ject Debut Carbon with red 2m cart. Lots of good reviews and looked like a good mid price way to start. Also unsure if I need this Pro-ject Phono box s. brush,scale cleaning supplies. Anything else I might need ? or anything else I should be looking at ? 

 

Speakers I do have a opportunity to get some linn Helix II with stands. for a very low price, should these be good? Or is there something else in the 150 to 500 range. Or do I need to step it up :) 

 

I do have Sennheiser hd600, Klipsch v3 iem. I do have a Modi Magni combo coming along with westone 4r. 

 

I have been reading a lot about vinyl ripping. I do have a couple of 24/96 rips that sound like nothing I have have ever heard on my nexus 4 with Klipsch v3( just waiting on amp for hd600 and westone 4r) they blow away anything I have heard to date. So back to vinyl ripping, I have read a lot it is time consuming and will sound like crap till you get it right and it will take lots of time. I am down for that, I need a good hobby. I am sorta stuck on gear for it.

 

This is sorta what I see to be the easiest.  I would go  from Pro-ject Debut to Phono Box S to an Analog to digital converter with some type of computer output like usb or fire wire for conversion to flac and post processing to remove pops snaps and crackles. Here it seems to range from 2,000.00 to 100.00  for a ADC. I do see what looks to be  the easiest, is one of the following.  Korg Mr2000, tascam Dv-ra1000 , and  da3000. Are there any other systems like this that do analog to digital conversion to dsd or wav ? Should I just go with some lower cost adc to usd  firewire to my pc ?  

 

Thanks for the info and advise. 

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You don't need to buy a phono stage as your Marantz has one built in. You will need some cleaning supplies though. Personally I use an old discwasher brush, DIY cleaning solution(5 parts distilled water, 1 part Isopropyl alcohol, one drop of dish soap), and part of a magic eraser for cleaning the stylus(look this up on youtube to see how it's done without causing damage). Also, if you are installing the cartridge yourself, you may need the Shure stylus force guage(some arms either don't have measurement for this on them; or are inaccurate.)

As for the table, I'd recommend browsing the classifieds of Vinylengine and checking out Audiogon. You could get a vintage table that has been restored for a good price. If you want modern/no fuss, then the Carbon does seem to be the best choice in it's price range. If you can afford it, I'd recommend going for an entry level SOTA Moonbeam. I have a (vintage) SOTA Satellite, and I find it to be a very good table. Certainly much better than my previous table, the Dual 701. And I really wouldn't be surprised if the modern Moonbeam is equal to/better than my vintage table.
Edited by MohawkUS - 10/13/13 at 2:22pm
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You don't need to buy a phono stage as your Marantz has one built in. You will need some cleaning supplies though. Personally I use an old discwasher brush, DIY cleaning solution(5 parts distilled water, 1 part Isopropyl alcohol, one drop of dish soap), and part of a magic eraser for cleaning the stylus(look this up on youtube to see how it's done without causing damage). Also, if you are installing the cartridge yourself, you may need the Shure stylus force guage(some arms either don't have measurement for this on them; or are inaccurate.)

As for the table, I'd recommend browsing the classifieds of Vinylengine and checking out Audiogon. You could get a vintage table that has been restored for a good price. If you want modern/no fuss, then the Carbon does seem to be the best choice in it's price range. If you can afford it, I'd recommend going for an entry level SOTA Moonbeam. I have a (vintage) SOTA Satellite, and I find it to be a very good table. Certainly much better than my previous table, the Dual 701. And I really wouldn't be surprised if the modern Moonbeam is equal to/better than my vintage table.

Thanks for the response lots of stuff on audiogon and vinylengine. That sota moonbeam looks to be really well liked. any ideas on speakers? 

 

Thanks for the note on not needing the phono box s with the marantz. Laso I was thinking I might still need the phono box is I was to hook up from turntable to phono box to some usb adc to computer to out to dac and amp ? 

 

Thanks. 

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Thanks for the response lots of stuff on audiogon and vinylengine. That sota moonbeam looks to be really well liked. any ideas on speakers? 

Thanks for the note on not needing the phono box s with the marantz. Laso I was thinking I might still need the phono box is I was to hook up from turntable to phono box to some usb adc to computer to out to dac and amp ? 

Thanks. 

I really don't know what to tell you about speakers. You could ask for recommendations here or on a site like audiokarma I guess. I listen 100% of the time through my headphones as I assume a great deal of the people here do. As for the adc converters, I know Pro-Ject makes a few of them called 'USB boxes' or something. I don't know how good they are though. Are you trying to store the music on your computer? If you just want to listen to your records(as I do), you can just plug the cables coming out of the turntable into the 'phono' input on the back of the Marantz. You would have your DAC plugged into either the 'tape in' or 'aux'.

Unless you plan on putting the collection into storage, you're best just skipping the adc and running everything direct from source. You're really going to compromise the sound if you go table>phono-amp>adc>pc>dac>amp. Records are a lot more sturdy than they may seem at first glance and if they do start to sound worn(would take a good few hundred plays) you could buy a cartridge with a stylus meant to play lower in the groove(under where any of the damage would be). On the other hand, if you do just want to archive the records, there are some decent(not good) USB turntables out there. They have cheap adcs/phono-amps built into them. I don't know how good a $100-200 adc is, but it's pretty likely you'd have to spend a bit more in order to get one that will take advantage of all your analog setup has to offer(plus you'd need a good DAC/computer transport as to not compromise the sound on that end.)
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I really don't know what to tell you about speakers. You could ask for recommendations here or on a site like audiokarma I guess. I listen 100% of the time through my headphones as I assume a great deal of the people here do. As for the adc converters, I know Pro-Ject makes a few of them called 'USB boxes' or something. I don't know how good they are though. Are you trying to store the music on your computer? If you just want to listen to your records(as I do), you can just plug the cables coming out of the turntable into the 'phono' input on the back of the Marantz. You would have your DAC plugged into either the 'tape in' or 'aux'.

Unless you plan on putting the collection into storage, you're best just skipping the adc and running everything direct from source. You're really going to compromise the sound if you go table>phono-amp>adc>pc>dac>amp. Records are a lot more sturdy than they may seem at first glance and if they do start to sound worn(would take a good few hundred plays) you could buy a cartridge with a stylus meant to play lower in the groove(under where any of the damage would be). On the other hand, if you do just want to archive the records, there are some decent(not good) USB turntables out there. They have cheap adcs/phono-amps built into them. I don't know how good a $100-200 adc is, but it's pretty likely you'd have to spend a bit more in order to get one that will take advantage of all your analog setup has to offer(plus you'd need a good DAC/computer transport as to not compromise the sound on that end.)

Thanks for response on speakers.. As for album collection I would like to convert to digital to listen to on the go. It also sounds challanging t me ad wud be a great hobby. I was hopping to skip the USB turntables and go a little pro-sumer.
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