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post #886 of 2433
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It might be similar to vintage orthodynamic trandsducers - so we have to wait to see an actual driver before we know how innovative it is.

Someone's gotta pop off those pads or the back grills and snap a photo asap!

post #887 of 2433
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It might be similar to vintage orthodynamic trandsducers - so we have to wait to see an actual driver before we know how innovative it is.

 

What I wouldn't give for a pair of Yamaha HP-1's.    

post #888 of 2433
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Someone's gotta pop off those pads or the back grills and snap a photo asap!

 

A mission for the next person who encounters the Oppo... anyone?

 

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What I wouldn't give for a pair of Yamaha HP-1's.    

 

Yamaha is just half of the story of the round drivers - Peerless MB also made them, but they also made some headsets with the opposite design to the on-ear vented-closed Yamahas - with floating drivers, resting on pegs in an open baffle, in comfortable around-ear open back headsets, with almost no damping. I prefer the PMB designs. Then there were also the Russians. Anyway, I wonder if Oppo has improved this design further, or done something completely new :-)


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post #889 of 2433
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A mission for the next person who encounters the Oppo... anyone?


Yamaha is just half of the story of the round drivers - Peerless MB also made them, but they also made some headsets with the opposite design to the on-ear vented-closed Yamahas - with floating drivers, resting on pegs in an open baffle, in comfortable around-ear open back headsets, with almost no damping. I prefer the PMB designs. Then there were also the Russians. Anyway, I wonder if Oppo has improved this design further, or done something completely new :-)

I don't have any PMB phones but the vintage Fostex, Yamaha, and Russian Amfitons are good.
post #890 of 2433

Okay, my expectations have been reset for Oppo PM1 and HA1.

 

From reading the recent messages and impression by Viper - this gear is moving into summit-fi territory...$$$$$:eek: I'm looking at comparisons to HD800, LCD3, Stax SR009 with the PM1. Not sure what to compare with the HA1 and will let others think of relative comparison models.

 

I no longer consider Oppo's offering to be mid-fi...$ 

 

Hope to be proven wrong.:rolleyes:

post #891 of 2433
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Didn't Edifier recently acquire Stax?

 

Yes.

 

Anyway, I'm super excited for these. My ideal price point (basically, wha I will pay for them when they become available if they are at this price) is about $1200-$1400, I'm hoping less, if I'm lucky.

post #892 of 2433

Lol, this thread is a good lesson in marketing if anyone wants to release a headphone.

The magic box: stick your headphone in a hard shiny box and suddenly the perceived acceptance of it being a super high end/priced product is acceptable.

post #893 of 2433
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Lol, this thread is a good lesson in marketing if anyone wants to release a headphone.

The magic box: stick your headphone in a hard shiny box and suddenly the perceived acceptance of it being a super high end/priced product is acceptable.

Well to be fair it's like looking at a photo of someone in a suit, vs the same person in the same suit but also sitting in a supercar, and trying to guess how rich they are.

 

There's always the off-chance that the person is just posing with the supercar that is not theirs at all for show (same could apply to the Oppo case thing), but that's only an off-chance.

post #894 of 2433
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Well to be fair it's like looking at a photo of someone in a suit, vs the same person in the same suit but also sitting in a supercar, and trying to guess how rich they are.

 

There's always the off-chance that the person is just posing with the supercar that is not theirs at all for show (same could apply to the Oppo case thing), but that's only an off-chance.

Lol, that was a good analysis. Metaphor's are a fave of mine

post #895 of 2433
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Originally Posted by Kabeer View Post
 

Lol, this thread is a good lesson in marketing if anyone wants to release a headphone.

The magic box: stick your headphone in a hard shiny box and suddenly the perceived acceptance of it being a super high end/priced product is acceptable.

 

I don't think were doing that at all. I know I'm not an idiot who is fooled by hype and packaging, and I can only assume most others in this thread are also not so easily duped. we're simply making educated guesses based on a number of factors that support a mid-high tier product from Oppo. R&D is expensive and those costs are crucial to recoup as early as possible. Plus, the market has shown that many people are quite willing and able to spend in excess of $1000 for a good headphone so why would Oppo not try to enter into that lucrative market? I don't think anybody is fooled by a nice box, but it is a clue as to how Oppo wants their product to be perceived, and that in turn should give us confidence in saying this is not an entry level headphone.

post #896 of 2433
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Lol, that was a good analysis. Metaphor's are a fave of mine

 

Me too.  I'm a demon for metaphor's. 

post #897 of 2433
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Originally Posted by Kabeer View Post
 

Lol, that was a good analysis. Metaphor's are a fave of mine

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Me too.  I'm a demon for metaphor's. 

 

It was an analogy :p 

post #898 of 2433
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It was an analogy :p 

Whoops :$. 
I love both :p

post #899 of 2433

Actually, you're both incorrect.

Metaphors doesn't have an apostrophe! (-:

 

As a Wharfedale Isodynamic user, it'll be interesting to see how these work out.

I certainly don't find my original Isos lacking, except for being so inefficient they need an amp.

Hafler DH200 is fine!

My Wharfedale ID2s have round (rather than original square) panels, but aren't as good.

But are more efficient...

post #900 of 2433

After doing additional research, I found that the PM-1's likely competition is composed primarily of low-impedance planar magnetics.  One example, the HiFiMAN® HE-500 (Zo = 38Ω), is rated for 89 dB (at what volts RMS?) and, according to the manufacturer, can run off regular headphone amplifiers - I wonder whether that means the stock Texas Instruments® TP6120A2 in my XONAR®, the HiFiMAN® EF-5 (which can deliver 2W into a 30Ω load), or my powerful-enough-to-blow-headphones-other-than-electrostatics Pyle® PCA2 (rated for 40W into a 4Ω load)?

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