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post #526 of 2487

I don't know, I don't think the physical weight has anything to do with portability; however, the size certainly does. If the headphone is too heavy for the user at home or on the road, the location is irrelevant, so the weight is subjective to the user, not the location. Size on the other hand is certainly relevant to the location of use. Try stuffing a full-sized can into your gym bag on the bus as opposed to something small like the M-80. That is why I switched my portable from the 770 to the M-80, it wasn't weight, the 770s were nice and light, it was the size that ultimately constrained me.

post #527 of 2487
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They look semi-open, not much info but from picture perspective point, it looks well-built, not very big, comfy, lightweight and maybe good for portable use. Noise leak and isolation is subjective as I've seen plenty of people on public transport use Grado/Alessandro and HD555/595's. 

Cool...thanks. So semi-open = open...so scratching them off my list as a portable option. That said, still might be great at home in my rig. 

post #528 of 2487
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Head-Fi is so used to behemoths like the LCD-3 and PS1000 that when we see a TOTL can that has tons of modern visual design work put into it, we tend to automatically assume portability.

 

The fact that it's seen in press photos with a desktop amp, that it's an open design, that it's a planar, and that it's made from heavy-looking materials all point to home-oriented use. However, the thin cables are intriguing and could possibly mean portability, so we don't really know at this point.

 

I think of portability when I see a carrying case. 

post #529 of 2487
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The fact that it's seen in press photos with a desktop amp, that it's an open design, that it's a planar, and that it's made from heavy-looking materials all point to home-oriented use. However, the thin cables are intriguing and could possibly mean portability, so we don't really know at this point.

Just because it is using planar magnetic transducer does not mean it will be using heavy materials, look at the ortho's of the late 70's to early 80's as light as a Grado and sounds even better with a bit of modding, if Yamaha can do it, there is no reason why Oppo or any other newcomer can't. 

 

The only reason the Audeze and Hifiman headphones are so heavy is due to the massive mass sized transducer used and the complete thick metal baffle plate on the LCD's. It's not a restriction that it has to be heavy and big, it's just the design Hifiman and Audeze opted for there line of headphones.

 

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Cool...thanks. So semi-open = open...so scratching them off my list as a portable option. That said, still might be great at home in my rig. 

Yeah semi-open is pretty much open with the noise leak. 

post #530 of 2487
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Here's a good question for all you guys:

IF the Oppo PM1 ends up having a substantially inferior sound quality relative to HE500 / Alpha Dogs (but is still quite good), what price are you willing to pay based on the build quality / looks alone?

I'm curious...

What about if it sounds better than the HE500 and Alpha Dogs?

If it sounds (and measures) as good or better than an LCD-2 and was lighter, more comfortable, and could be driven directly out of an iPhone, what would you be willing to pay?
post #531 of 2487
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If it sounds (and measures) as good or better than an LCD-2 and was lighter, more comfortable, and could be driven directly out of an iPhone, what 

Then I'd wonder what you've been smoking! 

Because I'd want some of that!!

 

I'd might be willing to pay something like $1200-1500. 

Mostly because I wouldn't have to drop another $500 on an amp just to drive it properly. 

 

Naturally I'd hope that a competitive Chinese brand would seek to take over the market and aim a lot lower like Hifiman does, in which case I'd hope for something like $1000


Edited by GREQ - 10/28/13 at 6:05am
post #532 of 2487
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If it sounds (and measures) as good or better than an LCD-2 and was lighter, more comfortable, and could be driven directly out of an iPhone, what would you be willing to pay?

 

No decent orthos can be driven directly from iPhone. Period.

post #533 of 2487
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No decent orthos can be driven directly from iPhone. Period.

Yet.


Edited by GREQ - 10/28/13 at 8:53am
post #534 of 2487
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

Just because it is using planar magnetic transducer does not mean it will be using heavy materials, look at the ortho's of the late 70's to early 80's as light as a Grado and sounds even better with a bit of modding, if Yamaha can do it, there is no reason why Oppo or any other newcomer can't.

I meant the external materials (metal, etc) look heavy, not the drivers.

post #535 of 2487
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I meant the external materials (metal, etc) look heavy, not the drivers.
I guess it's relative but it didn't feel heavy to me. As a scale the LCDs heavy for me.
post #536 of 2487
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Yet.

The more sensitive orthos are, the worse they play. Ask HiFiMAN ;)

post #537 of 2487
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

Then I'd wonder what you've been smoking! 
Because I'd want some of that!!
Only the best.biggrin.gif
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The more sensitive orthos are, the worse they play. Ask HiFiMAN wink.gif

It is possible that other people know more about orthos than HiFiMan. Maybe just pretend with me for a moment. If this were Sennheiser or Fostex would you believe it's then? For that matter what if it this was a hifiman product?
post #538 of 2487
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The more sensitive orthos are, the worse they play. Ask HiFiMAN ;)

So the egg-heads at Hifiman havn't cracked it. 

Maybe Oppo have an ace up their sleeve. (which I sort of doubt, but I like to dream) 

post #539 of 2487
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It is possible that other people know more about orthos than HiFiMan. Maybe just pretend with me for a moment. If this were Sennheiser or Fostex would you believe it's then? For that matter what if it this was a hifiman product?

I mentioned HiFiMAN because they have high and low sensivity orthos in their model line. Sennheiser don't have planars now and all that Fostex could do is to insert oldish T50RP drivers in open-back case with th600 headband - totally disappointing for me. I spoke to some experienced people and majority of them think that high sensivity is generally not good for orthos, I can't explain why because I don't know as much about technical things as they do. 

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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post
 

So the egg-heads at Hifiman havn't cracked it. 

Maybe Oppo have an ace up their sleeve. (which I sort of doubt, but I like to dream) 

Well, me too :wink: 


Edited by remilio - 10/28/13 at 12:03pm
post #540 of 2487

Well, Wharfedale ID2s work O.K. from iPod!

Just try finding some though!

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