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post #2416 of 2487

 

Nice model!

post #2417 of 2487

Yet another premium box from Oppo!

post #2418 of 2487

Well,after listening for some time comparing the original lambskin pads to the new "tuned" lambskin pads IMO the sound with the new "tuned" pads is much better to my taste. The soundsatge is not only wider but also deeper and more layered. The sound is much cleaner and transparent that's probably why other people hear it as brighter and the bass is tighter and cleaner too.

So far I much prefer the sound with the new pads. When I switch back to the original pads the sound now sound muffled to me.  It is funny because I thought they sounded great before but I guess I did not know what I was missing and now found! :gs1000smile: 

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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post

 

 

IMO there is a third difference but I am not sure if it is real or subjective to me. IMO the foam of the new "tuned" pads is slightly firmer than the old pads but again that is to my touch so I am not sure if Oppo really made a change.

 

Now to the listening tests to report back later...:atsmile:

 

I'm not sure if you've used one pad more than the other already, or how many hours you logged on the older pad...  But that would be the reason that the foam is "firmer" on the new pad.  As you squish and use memory foam pads, they will conform to your face and soften up, they will also compress with use.  This can technically create a change in sound, though there is no guarantee such a change is audible.  

post #2420 of 2487
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post
 

there is no guarantee such a change is audible.  

 

Softer is warmer, right? Yeah right. don't squeeze the Charmin!

post #2421 of 2487

Assuming a good seal in both scenarios, situating your ears further from the PM-1/PM-2 drivers, at least, will result in greater treble presence. Softer, less firm foam will compress more easily and put your ears closer to the driver, thus resulting in a warmer/darker sound.

 

The felt ring also plays a large role in upper mid and treble presentation. Having it there smooths things out and depresses the overall response above.

post #2422 of 2487
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Originally Posted by Justin_Time View Post

 

What you call warmth and lusciousness with the stock Opp PM-1, I perceive as a lack of transparency.  A warm or lush sound to me is when it is rounded, liquid, not edgy, with smooth musical overtones but not lacking in inner details.  The stock Oppo's sound to me is not warm or lush, but simply closed-in and veiled and lacking in inner details. ( I would call the sound of the LCD3 and HE-560 warm, but both sounds have plenty of clarity and details).   

 

I guess it is a matter of taste. 

 

So overall, we pretty much agree on the changes.  But unlike you, I think  they are in the right direction and actually still not enough to make me a fan of the PM-1...yet..

 

Oh, I'm not sure yet about the sound I prefer overall, but I am sure about the leather making my ears sweat more than the velour!

 

It is great, however, that Oppo designed the pads in such a way as to make changes easy and non-destructive.  The speaker-grill-like attachments are so much better than any other method I've seen.  No tape, no stretching, no glue, no screws, no tearing, and no gnashing of teeth and screaming!


Edited by JML - 8/16/14 at 6:01am
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Oh, I'm not sure yet about the sound I prefer overall, but I am sure about the leather making my ears sweat more than the velour!

 

It is great, however, that Oppo designed the pads in such a way as to make changes easy and non-destructive.  The speaker-grill-like attachments are so much better than any other method I've seen.  No tape, no stretching, no glue, no screws, no tearing, and no gnashing of teeth and screaming!

 

You are quite right about the good design of the ear-pad attachments.  It is quite superior to the one on the HE-560.  You ought to see the one on the Stax 007.  What a nightmare.  The ones on the Ultrasone Edition 8 are glued on and after a few moths of heavy use, the glue loses its stickiness and the pads just fall off. I have always admired Oppo for their ergonomics--I have owned all of their Blu-ray players.  Now, if they'd just elevate the sound quality to the same level of excellence...

 

Yes, the PM-1 era-pad leather does make everything hot in spite of the perforations and imperfect seal, which allows a modicum of air circulation.  As a small consolation, the ear-pads for the LCD3 are a lot worse in that respect as they seal almost perfectly, have no perforations and are about twice as thick! If you think you have perspiration problem now with the PM-1...

The HE-500 and HE-6 pads are a mixed bag:  They are hard and incredibly painful to wear in ;long session.  Fortunately, they hurt so bad you do not wear them for very long :gs1000smile: 

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All the closed headphones with leather pads eventually cause my ears to sweat (AT, PSB, etc.).  The really open ones, especially with Escaine, Alcantara, or velour pads, are often far more comfortable because they're cooler.  Regardless, Oppo has developed a great attachment system that others ought to copy.  And I wish more makers would make pads of velour or the polyester suede-like materials, instead of leather or pleather.


Edited by JML - 8/16/14 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by JML View Post
 

The Woo Audio headphone stands are an almost perfect color match to the PM-1 (and PM-2, I'm sure).  Perhaps more important is that the curvature of the headband pad is a perfect match to the curvature of the top section of the stand.

 

 

 

The stand matches perfectly with the Oppo gear.  Looks great!

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post #2426 of 2487
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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy528 View Post
 

The stand matches perfectly with the Oppo gear.  Looks great!

Headband curvature somewhat, but pads not really.   Compare below.  Some competitors stands are also of similar form/shape to below with different materials used.  Still any good quality stand is recommended.  Next on my accessories list. :wink_face:

 


Edited by HiFiAudio - 8/18/14 at 11:45am
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I don't want anything touching the pads while they're on a stand.  The Woo Audio, AudioTechnica, and Just Mobile don't have any part that would compress or deform ear pads...

post #2428 of 2487
^ Hows the hanging in the air and on your ears any worse then resting on plexiglass headphone holder?  The image shows headset not being compressed or deformed.  :smile_phones:

 

 

post #2429 of 2487

Looks to me as if the top of the pads are resting on the acrylic.  If they aren't, I can't see that because of the angle of the photos. 


Edited by JML - 8/18/14 at 2:23pm
post #2430 of 2487

Doesn't make any difference, you do far worse wearing them then anything that will happen to them resting on a headphone stand. :p :wink_face:

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