Okay, "similar sound signature" is that better for you? Do you feel like you've won something yet?
Edited by Jimmyf1312 - 6/8/14 at 12:11pm
That isn't technically guaranteed either... I'll agree that there is a big chance that can happen. Not sure why you're so defensive about a headphone that hasn't been released yet.
Not wishing to rake up the international pricing controversy yet again, but hey, this does deserve at least a quick answer before moving on.
What's in a name? Well, quite a lot so far as corporate identity and reputation goes. If you guys go to John Smith Distributors, and make an agreement with them to handle your products in a territory, then people in that territory will see some separate, multi-brand entity. Whilst you go to OPPO Something or other, they will see, guess what? OPPO.
You cannot hide behind legal niceties of corporate identity. "We're OPPO, don't confuse us with OPPO: we have no control over OPPO." Does that make sense? Only to lawyers. Absolutely not to consumers.
You guys communicate. You have been much more open on this issue than many companies would have been. So please take this in the spirit of communication, because it is a point that I really think you should get for the benefit of all, not least yourselves.
Sorry for the interruption.
Been kind of a dearth lately with impressions, did the usual complaints about international pricing scare some away?
See PM-2 availability currently as July 2014.
HA-2 ?? You mean PM-2 or am I missing something big?
Yes, I understand that... But -and I guess this is where we're going to disagree- I just don't think the PM1 is competitive at north of $1K. I think it gets outclassed by other phones at that price-point. Again, no offense is intended, this is just based off my ears. But to be fair, it seems quite a few people agree with me. So whether we want to use the language of "a sale" or simply a revamping of the price-point, my argument is that I think something is going to have to give. Or perhaps keep the price the same and revamp the phone itself, so it's more competitive at north of $1K.
Again, no offense intended. This is a forum for discussing headphones, so naturally the discussion is often directly correlated with how good one may feel a particular phone is... Generally such opinions are pretty innocuous, however it can appear to take on an adversarial lean when the person you're discussing said opinion with happens to make the headphone, ha ha. But that's not my intent.
So I'm not trying to be a bastard... I'm just giving my honest assessment. I think the PM1 is a great phone... But I think it's in the realm of HE500 great. I think it gets outgunned once you start to get into the $1K+ market. So I think it will be hard to sell at that figure once the new product lust wears off.
Or maybe I'm completely wrong and the PM1 deserves another listen. It's happened before. ;-) I think every post on this forum should take a note from Reading Rainbow and be tagged with "But don't take my word for it..."
I have had the PM1 for over a month and I am of the group that doesn't agree with you. I feel like with other OPPO products I have, 105, BDP83, etc., I have received great value for my money. I just wish I had known the 105D was coming before I bought the 105.