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post #1921 of 2548
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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post
 

Sorry if I came off as being defensive or mean, I just get into the habit of wanting to type "the truth" and really forget to think about how it will sound in the end.

 

Here at OPPO Digital, Inc we feel discomfort in the International pricing as well. We have expressed ours and your concerns to our international partners, and hopefully some kind arrangement can be made to better suite the expectations of International customers.

One on the many reasons that I am very glad I live in Reno, Nevada.  I can order a Oppo product and if it is in stock, receive it in 3 days or less.

 

I have three Oppo products (DV-981HD, BDP-105 & PM-1) these are great audio devices.  Oppo is the first place I would look for any future audio purchase with the added option that they also do video. 

post #1922 of 2548
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Originally Posted by avraham View Post
 

A very well written review.  I have been using the PM-1s for just a little over a month, received my pair 4 days after they were released.  I couldn't be happier with the results.  I am using the headphone amp out on my Oppo BDP-105 as the source, playing back SACDs, RBCDs, DVD-As, downloaded FLAC & DSD files via USB thumb drives.  Some earlier posts have compared these phones as being similar to Sennheiser HD650, I disagree I have Sennheiser HD580, HD590, HD600 & HD650 and the PM-1s are much better sounding headphone to my ears.

Glad you like the review. It was fun doing it.

post #1923 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

Glad you like the review. It was fun doing it.

Thanks Frank a really nice review.  Straight to the point with less headphobabble than many, and I mean many previous reviews.  :beerchug:

post #1924 of 2548

Rumay thanks so much for the nice words. I appreciate your comments and really liked writing this one.

post #1925 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

For those interested  http://thehighfidelityreport.com/oppo-pm-1-planar-technology-comes-of-age-2/


 Great review Frank, agree on most or all of your observations.

post #1926 of 2548

Thanks- glad you liked the review and appreciatthe comments

post #1927 of 2548

Interested in this Oppo phone, but already have the Audeze LCD-2.2 so I'm not sure if its really worth the expense.

 

Do they use the same cable connectors?  Will an aftermarket Audeze cable work with these?

post #1928 of 2548
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Originally Posted by mamba315 View Post

Interested in this Oppo phone, but already have the Audeze LCD-2.2 so I'm not sure if its really worth the expense.

Do they use the same cable connectors?  Will an aftermarket Audeze cable work with these?

The PM-1 uses dual 2.5mm mono plugs/jacks for it's cable connections.
Aftermarket cables should work just fine, but they come with a very nice cable(s) to begin with.
If you want a balanced cable that must be purchased separately.
post #1929 of 2548
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Originally Posted by mamba315 View Post

Interested in this Oppo phone, but already have the Audeze LCD-2.2 so I'm not sure if its really worth the expense.

 

Do they use the same cable connectors?  Will an aftermarket Audeze cable work with these?

Don't know if it's important to you but unlike LCD-2 PM-1 don't have treble sparkle so for me PM-1 sound darker than LCD2
post #1930 of 2548

Hi olegausany,

 

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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post


Don't know if it's important to you but unlike LCD-2 PM-1 don't have treble sparkle so for me PM-1 sound darker than LCD2

 

I don't know which version of the LCD-2 you have, and mamba315 was asking about the PM-1 vs. his LCD-2.2, but for those who have the LCD-2 rev.1, my PM-1 has a lot more treble energy. This might be explained by the fact that the LCD-2 rev.1 had a thicker polymer film, with greater mass, and thus, is less responsive than the LCD-2.2.  

 

In any case, I wanted LCD-2 rev.1 owners to know that, to my ears,the PM-1 not has plenty of sparkle, they are much more appealing in this regard than just about every other headphone I own or have owned with the exception of HD650, which is definitely not to my tastes.  The PM-1 and HD650 are nowhere near as bright as Beyerdynamic T1 (which I sold) or Sennheiser HD800.

 

For lack of an amp that can make the HD800 do what I want, I hang onto the HD800 not so much for listening to music, but rather for use as a microscope for comparing the resolution of upstream components, but I do have a playlist of recordings that are sufficiently dark (Lawrence Juber, for example) to sound absolutely wonderful with the Beresford Bushmaster MkII DAC section > OPPO HA-1  balanced out > HD800.

 

But for mamba315's sake, I'll add that the HD650 is just a little bit brighter than the PM-1, if he has heard the HD650 on his chain.

 

I'd rank the treble energy (amplitude) as follows (darkest to brightest), for these headphones:

 

LCD-2 rev.1

        ------------------------  big difference

OPPO PM-1

        ------------------------  small difference

Sennheiser HD600

        ------------------------  small difference

Sennheiser HD650

        ------------------------  small difference

AKG K550 

        ------------------------  big difference

Beyerdynamic T1 

        ------------------------  small difference

Sennheiser HD800

 

 

Note:  In the rankings above, the HD600, AKG550, and T1 are judged from my memory of how they performed relative to the headphones still have.  

 

I consider the PM-1 treble energy to be just right for my ears, my tastes, allowing hours of easy listening without fatigue.

 

Mike


Edited by zilch0md - 5/27/14 at 12:00pm
post #1931 of 2548
I clearly understand your point but lools like i heard LCD2r2 (i don't own them but had a chance to hear with the same i heard PM-1) and they sounded better than PM-1. I agree that HD800 are bright for many people but it can be easily fixed with EQ or tube rolling but nothing could be done to add something which is not here to begin with. Of course everyone has different sound signature preference so experience will vary
post #1932 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

For those interested  http://thehighfidelityreport.com/oppo-pm-1-planar-technology-comes-of-age-2/

Great review Frank.....I tried the PM-1 a couple of days ago and share your views on this great first foray by Oppo

post #1933 of 2548
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

I don't know which version of the LCD-2 you have, and mamba315 was asking about the PM-1 vs. his LCD-2.2, but for those who have the LCD-2 rev.1, my PM-1 has a lot more treble energy. This might be explained by the fact that the LCD-2 rev.1 had a thicker polymer film, with greater mass, and thus, is less responsive than the LCD-2.2.  

In any case, I wanted LCD-2 rev.1 owners to know that, to my ears,the PM-1 not has plenty of sparkle, they are much more appealing in this regard than just about every other headphone I own or have owned with the exception of HD650, which is definitely not to my tastes.  The PM-1 and HD650 are nowhere near as bright as Beyerdynamic T1 (which I sold) or Sennheiser HD800.

For lack of an amp that can make the HD800 do what I want, I hang onto the HD800 not so much for listening to music, but rather for use as a microscope for comparing the resolution of upstream components, but I do have a playlist of recordings that are sufficiently dark (Lawrence Juber, for example) to sound absolutely wonderful with the Beresford Bushmaster MkII DAC section > OPPO HA-1  balanced out > HD800.

But for mamba315's sake, I'll add that the HD650 is just a little bit brighter than the PM-1, if he has heard the HD650 on his chain.

I'd rank the treble energy (amplitude) as follows (darkest to brightest), for these headphones:

LCD-2 rev.1
       
 big difference
OPPO PM-1
       
  small difference
Sennheiser HD600
       
  small difference
Sennheiser HD650
       
 small difference
AKG K550 
       
 big difference
Beyerdynamic T1 
       
 small difference
Sennheiser HD800


Note:  In the rankings above, the HD600, AKG550, and T1 are judged from my memory of how they performed relative to the headphones still have.  

I consider the PM-1 treble energy to be just right for my ears, my tastes, allowing hours of easy listening without fatigue.

Mike

I didn't find the PM-1 darker or less treble than HD650, caveat that HD650 is from memory, so I could be full of it.
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

I clearly understand your point but lools like i heard LCD2r2 (i don't own them but had a chance to hear with the same i heard PM-1) and they sounded better than PM-1. I agree that HD800 are bright for many people but it can be easily fixed with EQ or tube rolling but nothing could be done to add something which is not here to begin with. Of course everyone has different sound signature preference so experience will vary

I am not a fan of the LCD2.x, though I get why others are. I like the PM-1 quite a bit better, but if you are a fan of the LCD2.x, there is a pretty solid chance the PM-1 won't thrill you. It is still worth listening to be sure though. There are similarities. Funny, as much as I don't like the LCD2.x, I've often wondered if it might not be worth trading a kidney for the LCD3.
post #1934 of 2548

moved

 

Forgot we had two threads . . . . 


Edited by HiFiAudio - 6/3/14 at 10:14pm
post #1935 of 2548

That there is a subjective description of a flat frequency response... Bass that doesn't overpower and is clean, really clear midrange and treble that doesn't stand out. Balance.

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